Title: Bot Oddity - Anyone Know Anything About This...? Post by: TwEeK! on January 22, 2011, 05:09:52 PM So, as many of you know, I recently started running my own server not too long ago. Things have been going great, I've got a small crew of regulars who share in welcoming all that venture in and it's a blast. So, here's the first thing that's come up and left me stumped, and might also be of interest to the developers:
The other night, 2 or 3 of us humans were in with about 3 bots. The specifics for the launch of this particular game were the following: set m2010 "set g_gametype 0 ; set g_Instantgib 0 ; set g_vampire 0 ; set g_vampire_max_health 500 ; set g_catchup 6 ; set fraglimit 35 ; set timelimit 10 ; set bot_minplayers 0 ; wait 3 ; kick allbots ; wait 3 ; map oa_pvomit ; addbot sergei 1 red 150 Ziggy ; addbot grism 2 blue 200 Sheletor ; addbot tony 3 red 200 Professor ; set nextmap vstr m2020" While we were fraggin', I noticed what at first I thought was a new human in the game, the way I usually do - because my eyes caught something different as the scoreboard flashed by one time. I cease fraggin' briefly and hit <TAB> to get the new visitor's nick' and toss them the obligatory "Hi!/Welcome!" greeting. I chuckle briefly as I see that instead of being yet another Unnamed Player, this one has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING listed under their name. Nice trick, I think to myself, as something in the back of my head tells me that such a thing probably shouldn't be possible. Then I notice the visitor is also playing with a handicap - a REALLY LOW handicap: 0. Wow. I usually handicap myself at 75 when I play on my server, to make up for the advantage of being about 3 feet away from it, as well as for the challenge and practice it affords me. But, 0? 0? LOL! I die A LOT handicapped at 75, and scoring a frag takes a bit of work, too! Then I'm thinking, damn, what's his "max health"? Zero? ROFL, that don't make sense! I decide I gotta try a 0 handicap myself - and lo and behold I quickly discover/realize that I CAN'T set a 0 handicap, not via the menu, nor the console. DOH! This guy's good, I'm starting to think, LOL, hope he's not some butthead of a hacker, I don't really mind if he's friendly.... So, I attempt communication with the visitor a little more. Yeah, he's a quiet one. Silent. Usually that's just someone that doesn't speak English, from what I've learned, so I throw out all the common language greetings I know, to no avail. The guy's not anything stellar as far as his performance goes - he had managed a mere 2 frags. This is when it got really entertaining - a fellow MeTaLNET regular and myself both noticed the guy was invisible at one point and commented on it. Then I realize, I've never scored the invisibiiity on oa_pvomit and I've been through there pretty thoroughly. I start watching closer and closer, to find that this guy is essentially PERMANENTLY INVISIBLE! I'm still thinking, wow, this guy really does have some hackchops, and I'd love to hear how he pulls all this off, how he figured it out, etc. I mean, we've got a dude - an entity, LOL - running around in here with a null name, 0 handicap, permanent invisibility with some seriously low fragskills! And both me and the MeTaLNET regular "saw" this character as best we could - the shimmer of his invisibility when we were near, felt the results of the few times he hit us with a weapon, etc. Then that thing in the back of my head roared to life, and with laughter, as my frontal lobes took in the realization that my Ziggy bot seemed to have dropped out of the game at some point, which was weird because, sure, those bots eventually drop or get weeded out, but usually that's over the course of a few maps/games. Bingo. TwEeK! the rookie server admin deftly types into the console: \rcon status And what do you think I saw? Yup, damn if my Ziggy bot's name ain't staring back at me on the client list. Yeah, it took a while to light that tiny little light bulb above my head, but it glowed just enough for me to realize that our "visitor" was merely our well-known friend, the gutless little Ziggy bot that usually is so scared he just runs away from everything and spends a lot of time looking at his boots! ROFL! I share my Eureka! moment with the other flesh-and-blood in the game, we laugh and I do a \condump to grab anything that might be of interest. Eventually I \kick my l33t h@x0r Ziggy bot, bring him back in, \kick him again, do this a couple more times (what else can I do to punish him, LOL, or perhaps I should be giving him a raise, hahaha!), but no more wierdness. Oh well, maybe it's a one-time thing.... NOT! Nope, seems to happen not EVERY time, but pretty damn consistently, only on that particular map/game in my map cycle. So, anyone got any suggestions for me on what's up? Am I doing something stupid? Is there a possible bug? (And in asking for such tips, don't you DARE respond with, "Well, definitely don't bring him in at Nightmare level." LOL! Thanks, thought about that already....) So that's the story, long as usual, but whaddaya expect, comin' from me and all? :-) Just so you can all really have a laugh at our cluelessness that first night, here's the relevant part of the \condump, for that first meeting of Zigbot's alter-ego, Nullman (thought I had screenshots, too, but evidently not): ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/Teletubbies.pk3 (153 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/storm3tourney5.pk3 (36 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/speedyctf.pk3 (73 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/simpsons.pk3 (592 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/reptctf12.pk3 (72 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/q3wpak4.pk3 (562 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/q3botcomp.pk3 (3 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/ps9ctf.pk3 (11 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/platypus.pk3 (18 files) on the pure list ./baseoa/pak6-patch085.pk3 (559 files) on the pure list ./baseoa/pak6-misc.pk3 (229 files) on the pure list ./baseoa/pak5-TA.pk3 (139 files) on the pure list ./baseoa/pak4-textures.pk3 (1753 files) on the pure list ./baseoa/pak2-players.pk3 (669 files) on the pure list ./baseoa/pak2-players-mature.pk3 (231 files) on the pure list ./baseoa/pak1-maps.pk3 (100 files) on the pure list ./baseoa/pak0.pk3 (1042 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/md3-homie.pk3 (40 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/map-mictourney1a.pk3 (118 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/map-charon3dm13.pk3 (29 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/map-alpha3d.pk3 (18 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/map-13vast.pk3 (83 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/homer.pk3 (67 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/HDsagoalpha.pk3 (15 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/deadmeat.pk3 (164 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/dantesca.pk3 (72 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/boxen.pk3 (130 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/Bot-homie.pk3 (8 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/bastir.pk3 (102 files) on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/z_oasago2f9_god-final.pk3 (11 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/stchctf9a.pk3 (70 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/q3_q2dm1.pk3 (72 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/q3wpak0.pk3 (287 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/oa_shine2b1.pk3 (23 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/mlctf1beta.pk3 (7 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/mkbase.pk3 (90 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/map-ninemil-ctf1.pk3 (22 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/LetGo_q3a.pk3 (71 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/ctf004_024f.pk3 (25 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/bubctf1.pk3 (72 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/brickyard.pk3 (90 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/7++.pk3 (7 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa/6++.pk3 (9 files) not on the pure list /home/tweek/.openarena/baseoa ./baseoa handle 1: video/idlogo.roq ---------------------- 7944 files in pk3 files Wrote challenges.cfg RE_Shutdown( 0 ) Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok ----- R_Init ----- GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation GL_RENDERER: GeForce FX 5600 Ultra/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! 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Ziggy entered the game Sheletor entered the game Professor entered the game Paint it black entered the game 00_1_00 entered the game TwEeK! entered the game was in the wrong place. TwEeK! was helped on the way by Professor Sheletor ate Professor's rocket Paint it black was in the wrong place. Sheletor was gunned down by Professor Professor was machinegunned by 00_1_00 TwEeK!: shrike sits down there and waits for u to jump down. he rockets up at ya rofl 00_1_00 almost dodged 's rocket 00_1_00 disconnected Sheletor ate TwEeK!'s rocket TwEeK! almost dodged Sheletor's rocket Professor was machinegunned by Paint it black Sheletor was electrocuted by TwEeK! Sheletor was railed by Paint it black TwEeK! was railed by Paint it black was in the wrong place. Sheletor was in the wrong place. Professor was in the wrong place. TwEeK!: how does one do a blank name? TwEeK! ate Professor's rocket was melted by Sheletor's plasmagun ate Professor's rocket TwEeK!: impressive handicap too! Sheletor was in the wrong place. Sheletor was gunned down by TwEeK! TwEeK! was electrocuted by Paint it black Sheletor was in the wrong place. Professor was in the wrong place. Paint it black is on a killing spree with 5 kills Sheletor was electrocuted by Paint it black TwEeK!: that's got to be a bitch to score with a 0 handicap! Paint it black ate Professor's rocket Sheletor was in the wrong place. Sheletor blew himself up. TwEeK! almost dodged Sheletor's rocket Professor was in the wrong place. ]\handicap 0 Professor was machinegunned by Paint it black TwEeK! was gunned down by Sheletor was gunned down by Professor ]\handicap 5 Sheletor was in the wrong place. was gunned down by Professor TwEeK!: how thte hell u set handicap to 0? Professor ate Paint it black's rocket Sheletor ate Paint it black's rocket ]\handicap 1 Professor was in the wrong place. TwEeK! was machinegunned by Sheletor Professor almost dodged Paint it black's rocket Paint it black was gunned down by Professor TwEeK! ate Sheletor's rocket Sheletor blew himself up. was gunned down by Professor TwEeK! almost dodged Professor's rocket Paint it black tried to invade Sheletor's personal space ate Professor's rocket TwEeK!: shit. 1's bad enough. start with 25 health, AND it ticks down! rofl Professor was helped on the way by Sheletor Sheletor was in the wrong place. Paint it black: i\who is it i havent seen yey was in the wrong place. TwEeK! was machinegunned by Paint it black Professor was gunned down by Sheletor Sheletor was in the wrong place. TwEeK!: i dunno. maybe same person as last game? dunno Sheletor ate Professor's rocket TwEeK!: they know a coupe trix tho, lol Professor was in the wrong place. TwEeK! was in the wrong place. Sheletor was electrocuted by Paint it black TwEeK! was melted by 's plasmagun Paint it black was melted by 's plasmagun ate Professor's rocket Sheletor almost dodged Professor's rocket TwEeK! was gunned down by Professor Paint it black was gunned down by Professor Professor was machinegunned by TwEeK! was given a small push by Sheletor TwEeK! ate Sheletor's rocket Paint it black was machinegunned by TwEeK! Professor almost dodged Sheletor's rocket Sheletor blew himself up. ate Professor's rocket Paint it black was gunned down by TwEeK! TwEeK! was helped on the way by Paint it black Professor was melted by Sheletor's plasmagun Sheletor ate Professor's rocket TwEeK! was machinegunned by Paint it black Professor ate Sheletor's rocket Paint it black ate Sheletor's rocket Sheletor was in the wrong place. TwEeK! ate Professor's rocket TwEeK!: lol, if a 0 handicap is harder than a 1, then shit, i'm impressed they've even got any frags! TwEeK! ate Sheletor's rocket Sheletor blew himself up. Professor was in the wrong place. was machinegunned by Sheletor Professor was in the wrong place. Sheletor was helped on the way by Professor Paint it black was in the wrong place. Sheletor was helped on the way by Professor Professor was gunned down by TwEeK! TwEeK! was electrocuted by Sheletor Paint it black: is the guy invisible almost dodged Sheletor's rocket TwEeK!: i saw that too. perhaps, yes Professor almost dodged Sheletor's rocket Sheletor was in the wrong place. Paint it black: i cant see was helped on the way by Professor Sheletor ate Professor's rocket Sheletor almost dodged Paint it black's rocket ]it's like an invisible model, maybe? he doesnt show an icon in the scoreboard either TwEeK!: it's like an invisible model, maybe? he doesnt show an icon in the scoreboard either Professor was electrocuted by Sheletor ]/rcon status map: oa_pvomit num score ping name lastmsg address qport rate --- ----- ---- --------------- ------- --------------------- ----- ----- 0 2 0 Ziggy 100 bot 0 16384 1 11 0 Sheletor 100 bot 0 16384 2 17 0 Professor 50 bot 32001 16384 4 13 230 Paint it black 50 60.240.65.217 55894 25000 7 6 14 TwEeK! 50 68.6.87.247 32001 25000 was in the wrong place. ]lol wow TwEeK!: lol wow Paint it black was in the wrong place. TwEeK! was in the wrong place. Sheletor was in the wrong place. ]i get more impressed by the minute TwEeK!: i get more impressed by the minute was melted by Professor's plasmagun Paint it black: damn i thought i would follow bot over edge Paint it black: he landed on ledge ]wait i think i figured 'him' out TwEeK!: wait i think i figured 'him' out Sheletor was in the wrong place. Paint it black: i didnt TwEeK!: lol i got it Professor ate Paint it black's rocket TwEeK!: wow. wish i knew how to trigger that was in the wrong place. TwEeK!: that's fucking weird / cool TwEeK! was helped on the way by Professor Paint it black was gunned down by Sheletor was in the wrong place. TwEeK! was electrocuted by Sheletor Professor was electrocuted by Sheletor Sheletor was electrocuted by Paint it black ]/condump ziggybot-0-handicap-invis Dumped console text to ziggybot-0-handicap-invis. Title: Re: Bot Oddity - Anyone Know Anything About This...? Post by: fromhell on January 22, 2011, 05:53:11 PM (http://digitalpolyphony.webs.com/03x09-07-04.jpg)
Title: Re: Bot Oddity - Anyone Know Anything About This...? Post by: Peter Silie on January 22, 2011, 06:20:49 PM ROFL!
+1 Title: Re: Bot Oddity - Anyone Know Anything About This...? Post by: BlankBruno on January 22, 2011, 08:52:53 PM +1 as well. Excellent one fromhell. :) Now I need to go watch some QL. ;)
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