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Ho-ly Crap. I have never played a game so empty. I mean ser-i-ous-ly.. In all honesty, i can't figure out who's a bot and who's not. I'd like to play with Human.

If you wouldn't mind putting down some server IP's that are regularly active (at whatever time EST) that would be wonderful. Until they I am in a never ending ghost town full of annoying ass bots.   :mad:

You tried the "only humans" option in the serverbrowser?
And then dont join servers with 0 players.

But u're right, this game is really empty!

instead complaining, why don't you tell your friends about open arena, and tell them to play with you at certain time of the day.

100% agree.

But it's sooooooooo easy to complain... ::)

Wow you guys sure have respect for someone that's new. Sorry if I don't quite understand the controls. And sorry if Over-reacted.

i think that i can count the number of players in my country, but what do i do?

complaining is not gonna bring up players... so i have started a 24/7 server, building a website for it and telling all my friends about it...


I think I'm respecting you expressing my opnion just like you are.

:)

Are you playing the latest version?

Yea, make sure you using ver081. But you also have to consider that a good portion of players are European. If you're from the US, most US players come on after work after 5pm. I find that alot of ppl play Capture the Flag (CTF) and Free for All (Deathmatch) gametypes so I would check out those first. And yes, Enabled the Show Human Players   option as well.

P.S. I find it a doubled-edged sword with new players opinions of OA. They dont like playing against bots and they dont like playing against human players because alot of players are extremely good and they are considered cheating in their eyes. I would recommend you check out the Wiki section to get some tweaks to make you more competitive.

Most payers i know told me, that it is boring to play an old version without any progress.
Over and over all the same maps with the same players.
i think, that the time is right for a new release (maybe a .82).

Hitman, I couldn't agree with you more.

n00bs or quasi-n00bs don't want to play against bots but then they can't beat the bots.  If you can't beat these lame bots how do you expect to do well against humans?

The time to learn how to play - improving rail accuracy, understanding and effecting Splatter Damage and Strafing, and developing a sense for how the other player is likely to react "Anticipation" - is NOT against humans but against bots.


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Peter Silie, I don't think OA needs to have more than 1 version every year.  Releasing more frequently simply increases the client and server fragmentation within the OA Community.

Since you seem the sort who bores easily, instead of playing only baseoa, you can also play OA Mods such as Defrag (http://www.q3ana.de/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=724) and ExcessivePlus (http://oa.goquake.com).  These offer an alternate gameplay - different weapons, physics, maps, game types, etc. - without you having to move to a new game.


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Bots are the players with 0 ping.  Even on a non-dedicated server, humans will have pings that vary during play between 0ms and 7ms.


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The most popular OA Servers are in Europe but based on your timezone and ping you may not want to play there.


A few of us (4 to 8) from the WASP (http://forums.excessiveplus.net/viewtopic.php?t=22935) and SCW Clans tend to play between 9:30PM (21:30) and midnight New York time almost every night at one of these:

CTF (http://www.goquake.com/70vsp/pub/themes/bismarck/)

Freeze Tag (http://www.goquake.com/30vsp/pub/themes/bismarck/)


You're welcome to join us, just remember to enable "Automatic Downloads" at least until you have downloaded the Mod and the Maps.


We also use SCW's TeamSpeak (http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads) Server to chat:

URL: 64.15.149.177:8064

Password: weed

Default Channel: OpenArena

hey wasp, and bots have depending how "good" they are a smile face at its left....


i dunno why, some players have some numbers like 85 at the left of the character picture... and its not the ping...

It is handicap. It means that they only have 85 base health (starts with 85+25=110 health that counts down to 85. Max health and armor: 85*2 = 170) and the weapons only deal 85% damage.

Bots on bring it on has a handicap of 70, please don't hurt me bots have 50%

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Maybe that's because this is the final tests period of the school's year for many people ?

Wait a little for vacations and you'll see many players coming back.

I also think releasing newer versions to frequently is a bad idea.   I remember a year ago, there were like 3 releases right after one another.  The community was split over three different versions that were incompatible.  Now THAT was a ghost town!!

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:RIP: :violin:

Would it make sense to limit the amount of servers?  I know that goes against the whole "Open" idea, but maybe we can convince server hosts whose servers are empty for weeks on end to just disconnect.  This would atleast consolidate the places to play and maybe make it "feel" busier.....

i believe that a better filter in the server browser would be better. you pick servers where you can play other humans. if you filter out the bots you still end up with a long list of "0 players" when you have the show empty servers unticked.

This bug is removed in oax. Tip: you can use oax and its serverbrowser and play on pure servers without oax :)

no, we just have to few players.

it has now happened several times that 2-4 people out of the irc channel moved to an open and usually quite frequented server (evil|arena, also the lately less frequented RN| and uM servers) but have been playing there for 1 hour without others connecting.

:RIP: :violin:
:wind: :dead-leaves: :wind:

my server /connect dragon.zvdk.nl
has players everyday. i have bot_minplayers 5 but during peak (15:00-2400 GMT) there are always enough players to not have bots.

What i feel that is needed most is more quality default maps.
There are a couple of nice maps, but lots of maps like dm4ish and oa_dm6 have rocket campers.
The spacemaps like wrackdm17 are just too noobunfriendly.


As long as allowing downloads is default disabled i see no change in that.
A world opened to me when i turned downloading on, yet the button is really hidden far away.
1. Maybe push the question when a user cant join because he misses some pk3?
2. Can we find someone that wants to play the default for sv_downloadurl?
so that the chance of downloading from the server itself is small and you have reliable source for the maps.

The problem is that most of the default FFA maps are not so comfortable to play with a high number of players ...


I've made a post on RN forum comparing OA download system with other systems ( http://rainbow.furver.se/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1558 ) , remarking that a better download system for OA should be preferred.

The dfengine download system is very interesting : they introduced a command ( /download ) to download maps from a given URL defined by dl_source cvar ... at least we could have one or more global map repos from where clients could download required maps.

Doesn't this feature already exist in the current version?  I know I only see the human players....What about advertising?  I have done a few searches lately for "best open source FPS" or "best open source 3d games" and OA only shows up about half the time.  Other games that haven't been updated for a couple years still show up.  It seems there are lots of users working on developing the game and creating maps....anyone doing the PR work?

Not me, my promotion is all from making a news item here, and watching that news item snowball all over the internet. I never did pre-release hype either (except for April 1, 2007). I'm not making a "Promoting" forum.

yes, but it does not remove the empty servers from the browser. all you get is a lot of 0/20, 0/12, 0/24 etc in the list. but as schlorri pointed out above it will be fixed in the next version =)