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Title: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Umeaboy on July 21, 2009, 02:08:58 PM
I did a fresh installation of Ubuntu 9.04 & I desided to install OpenArena to test it.

When I ran it from the Program->Games

the game started, but with sound & graphics-issues.

I then desided to run it via Terminal/Console and you can read the result here:

http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/223782/

Specs of my computer can be read here:

http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/223830/


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Cacatoes on July 21, 2009, 02:28:48 PM
Quote
product: Radeon R300 NE [Radeon 9500 Pro]
So you've got an ATI, the problem could be related with your driver.

What's the result of glxgears ? How many FPS you get ?
Do you have compiz running ?




Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Umeaboy on July 21, 2009, 05:17:51 PM
The result of glxgears can be read here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/223941/

compiz is not even installed.


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Umeaboy on July 21, 2009, 05:19:17 PM
Btw, the ATI-driver is installed and used. You can see it here:

http://www.geting.se/viewimage.php?image=184339-ATI-driver%20installed.png


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: pulchr on July 21, 2009, 05:30:18 PM
what kind of sound and graphic issues?

low fps, stuttering sound, no acceleration, no sound?


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Falkland on July 21, 2009, 05:34:06 PM
Btw, the ATI-driver is installed and used. You can see it here:

http://www.geting.se/viewimage.php?image=184339-ATI-driver%20installed.png

Do u mean the Catalyst proprietary ATI driver ? If so , well ... the game log says it's trying to use MESA GL

Code:
...
GL_VENDOR: DRI R300 Project
GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
GL_VERSION: 1.3 Mesa 7.4
...

If u have installed the latest catalyst driver , u are in trouble because they dropped Radeon r300 support.

EDIT : in case the driver version is the right one , check also to have the correct xorg driver.


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Falkland on July 21, 2009, 05:50:44 PM
The result of glxgears can be read here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/223941/

You should post also the output of glxinfo and dmesg.


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Umeaboy on July 22, 2009, 12:46:54 AM
Output from glxinfo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/224119/

Output from dmesg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/224123/


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Umeaboy on July 22, 2009, 12:49:25 AM
what kind of sound and graphic issues?

low fps, stuttering sound, no acceleration, no sound?

The issues are

1. Intro-video is flickering.
2. The game starts very sluggish as thou I've used all the memory.
3. The sound hacks.


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Umeaboy on July 22, 2009, 01:01:53 AM
Btw, the ATI-driver is installed and used. You can see it here:

http://www.geting.se/viewimage.php?image=184339-ATI-driver%20installed.png

Do u mean the Catalyst proprietary ATI driver ? If so , well ... the game log says it's trying to use MESA GL

Code:
...
GL_VENDOR: DRI R300 Project
GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
GL_VERSION: 1.3 Mesa 7.4
...

If u have installed the latest catalyst driver , u are in trouble because they dropped Radeon r300 support.

EDIT : in case the driver version is the right one , check also to have the correct xorg driver.


As you see here I don't have anything installed containing catalyst: http://www.geting.se/viewimage.php?image=184370-Catalyst.png


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: kernel panic on July 22, 2009, 03:32:34 AM
Does this only happen with OA? How well do other 3D applications work?


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Falkland on July 22, 2009, 08:01:12 AM
As you see here I don't have anything installed containing catalyst: http://www.geting.se/viewimage.php?image=184370-Catalyst.png

I've asked because for some reason I see only the thumbnail of that image ...

Anyway the dmesg output is incomplete ; I'd like to see it because the following output seems a bit strange to me :

Code:
...
           *-display:0 UNCLAIMED
                description: VGA compatible controller
                product: Radeon R300 NE [Radeon 9500 Pro]
                vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
                version: 00
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 66MHz
                capabilities: bus_master cap_list
                configuration: latency=64 mingnt=8
           *-display:1 UNCLAIMED
                description: Display controller
                product: Radeon R300 [Radeon 9500 Pro] (Secondary)
                vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                physical id: 0.1
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.1
                version: 00
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 66MHz
                capabilities: bus_master cap_list
                configuration: latency=64 mingnt=8
...

The configuration section doesn't show the driver/module used/loaded

EDIT : anyway the glxinfo says that the direct rendering is working

How did u install OA ? By apt or official zip archive ?


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Umeaboy on July 22, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Does this only happen with OA? How well do other 3D applications work?

Yes, it only happens with OA.
I haven't tested any other 3D-applications.


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Umeaboy on July 22, 2009, 11:36:31 AM
As you see here I don't have anything installed containing catalyst: http://www.geting.se/viewimage.php?image=184370-Catalyst.png

I've asked because for some reason I see only the thumbnail of that image ...

Anyway the dmesg output is incomplete ; I'd like to see it because the following output seems a bit strange to me :

Code:
...
           *-display:0 UNCLAIMED
                description: VGA compatible controller
                product: Radeon R300 NE [Radeon 9500 Pro]
                vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
                version: 00
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 66MHz
                capabilities: bus_master cap_list
                configuration: latency=64 mingnt=8
           *-display:1 UNCLAIMED
                description: Display controller
                product: Radeon R300 [Radeon 9500 Pro] (Secondary)
                vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
                physical id: 0.1
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.1
                version: 00
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 66MHz
                capabilities: bus_master cap_list
                configuration: latency=64 mingnt=8
...

The configuration section doesn't show the driver/module used/loaded

EDIT : anyway the glxinfo says that the direct rendering is working

How did u install OA ? By apt or official zip archive ?

By Apt.


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: kernel panic on July 23, 2009, 11:34:54 AM
Does this only happen with OA? How well do other 3D applications work?

Yes, it only happens with OA.
I haven't tested any other 3D-applications.


o_O

How do you know that it only happens with OA if you haven't tried anything else?


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Falkland on July 23, 2009, 11:41:21 AM
Does this only happen with OA? How well do other 3D applications work?

Yes, it only happens with OA.
I haven't tested any other 3D-applications.


o_O

How do you know that it only happens with OA if you haven't tried anything else?

he opened a bug on launchpad since april , the bug report has no reply and is still marked as undecided.


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: yasha on August 03, 2009, 01:08:45 PM
Try downloading official zip and run game.


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: bboston7 on August 22, 2009, 03:21:22 PM
I wouldn't use the version from the repositories.  Also, you may be having problems with X.org and not OA.  In some cases, it is beneficial to downgrade to get superior performance (that is what I had to do.)


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: xnonix on October 25, 2009, 09:56:01 AM
Since ubuntu started using pulseaudio all games are fucked if you dont have a high end one.
I used ubuntu for 3 years but now i had to return to debian. I have installed debian stable (lenny) that have alsa drivers and NO pulse audio. The game is smooth now at 125 fps in oasago in a nvidia 5600.
Is all a software problem about sound. if you quit all the sound from you computer you will watch your game fly in ubuntu. But now you cant remove audio without removing the ubuntu-desktop packet, so is a big problem.

So, until Ubuntu developers dont fix the problem the mother debian is way better and stable than ubuntu for playing any kind of games.

xnonix



Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: Falkland on October 25, 2009, 10:08:04 AM
So, until Ubuntu developers dont fix the problem the mother debian is way better and stable than ubuntu for playing any kind of games.

xnonix

Pulseaudio became a Gnome Desktop dependence so in squeeze ( now testing/unstable ) u are not / will be not able to remove it too.


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: madghost on November 08, 2009, 02:15:56 AM
I beg to differ, I have (i hated myself) switch BACK to windows xp, from good ole linux, not because of OA, when I had this problem, I had no sound, if I did it was nothing but static. And my ping was high and fps was low, basically, a nightmare. If you use synaptic, you can uninstall the pulseaudio package and the compiz package, I realize you don't have compiz, but since you're in there, make sure. Uninstalling compiz took away my ability for visual effects on desktop, but helped with my graphics and ping (no more, "connection interrupted") Uninstalling pulse audio gave me my sound back with no problem. I did this in Karmic(9.10), which is only one upgrade up from jaunty(9.04), but both basically work the same as far as synaptic goes.

If you have alsamixer (comes default w/ clean install) then you won't lose system sound. I HAVE tested other 3D apps, and YES this only happens with OA, after I uninstalled both of these things, all worked fine.


Title: Re: Sound AND graphical-issues in Ubuntu 9.04
Post by: tuppe666 on November 10, 2009, 10:41:42 PM
As this thread won't die Karmic is out 9.10. You can turn off compositing you do not have to remove it! Compiz++ will be out soon, and will vanish with Gnome 3.0 anyway.

Intel/Pulseaudio was the bane of jaunty, it suffered from a revolution and (PICK PARTY TO BLAME) for not making the transition smooth. but jaunty was a version that fixed an awful lot of workarounds that were needed! The probability of your problems going away with an upgrade are very high.

If you are working on a immature driver; having pulseaudio problems...Simply Slap in a CD and try it out.

That being said openarena used sdl audio and for the love of god the ubuntu packagers decided to package it with the alsa backend as are many other open source games you need to

Code:
sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio

without it you will get no sound without removing pulseaudio and will not de able to exit without dropping to the console.

I hate the my distro is better comments. I loved Jaunty because it got rid of all my workarounds Karmic more so. Its not perfect see above...but its close.

That said what I really want is a Distribution that serves open source gaming better. There are a few live distro's that show off some of the best Games but no package manager that looks after say engine mods or separates Card/Board/Puzzle games.