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The Mods are what really made quake 3 have incredible shelf life.  There were many interesting mods written for the game..some slowly sinking in the sands of time.  Most of these mods work fine with OpenArena.

Here are a few of my Favorites

1.  NIQ3 - http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?view=MOTW.Detail&id=197

2.  Rune Quake 3 - http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?view=MOTW.Detail&id=185

3. ARQ - Archon Quake 3 - http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?view=MOTW.Detail&id=159

4. Requiem - http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?view=MOTW.Detail&id=160
    I have not tested requiem yet

Here is a link to these the great mods - all in one place
http://65.60.247.209/Quake3-OA-Mods/

Here is another link for ARQ, hosted by our member Gig: http://digilander.libero.it/flagraiders/files/oth_mods/arq/arq061002.zip

Drop by
SlippJigg's OpenArena Rune 0.8.5
and play a few maps

Anyone else have any Favorite Mods that work with OpenArena...speak up and tell the rest of us.
Don't keep the fun to yourself!

If you want to check out some old Mods that may be new to you start at the Mod of the Week pages here: http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?category_select_id=3&category_show_all=0&persist_search=b21b2041b1b5b565f1e25df7f670320e&view=MOTW.List&Data_page=1

Game not over,
Slippjigg

If you want, you can help expanding DO NOT LINK[/b]) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/ModCompat]"ModCompat" page on the Wiki (http://([b)[/i].... last week I added pages for DO NOT LINK[/b]) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/ModCompat/NIQ3]NIQ3 (http://([b), DO NOT LINK[/b]) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/ModCompat/BFG10K_Arena]BFG10K Arena (http://([b), DO NOT LINK[/b]) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/ModCompat/Akimbo]Akimbo (http://([b) and DO NOT LINK[/b]) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/ModCompat/Rocket_VS_Rail]Rocket VS Rail (http://([b)...

Gig,
  Thanks for the info,  i have not read the new wiki on this site.  I read the whole site before, but that was before the upgrade.  I will read the new wiki soon as i can spare the time?

Game not over,
SlippJigg

Update: I'll try to write an addon pack for ARQ.

It turned out that it doesn't work because of the fuzzy logic differences.

Edit: When I tried to update the wiki, I have became blocked by the spam protection filter. ??? Seems like they doesn't like the link of ARQ.

Since we have not been able to find a valid download location for the ARQ mod, when I wrote the page I uploaded the file to a web space I have access, under an Italian free space provider (known as digiland or digilander) account. Unfortunately, the whole digilander is in Wikia's blacklist, so to be able to add the link I was forced to place it inside the "nowiki" tags: the url was not clickable, but one could copy-paste it in his browser bar.

Now I try to update the page, and I see that the spam filter blocks it even if it is inside the "nowiki" tags! Ouch! I suppose the Wikia guys did an update to the spam filter... making impossible also to use the "nowiki" trick. D'oh!!!!!!

Maybe someone could upload the mod to rapidshare, megaupload, mediafire or similar service?

UPDATE: For the moment, I found another workaround: the blacklist searches for digilander.libero.it, the official URL of the "digiland" web service.... but the old URL digilander.iol.it (still active: now a redirection) works instead! Now the link is even clickable! (Until when the Wikia guys will decide to blacklist even digilander.iol.it...)

OK, I finished the conversion.

Will update the wiki.

EDIt: I forgot, it wasn't the fuzzy logic which made it uncompatible. It was Domination.

EDIT2: Deleted attachment due to update.

Great Work, Graion! You get a cake for that!
The patch is also available here (http://digilander.iol.it/flagraiders/files/oth_mods/arq/pak1_oafix.pk3), now.

To SlippJigg: if you want to copy it to your hosting, too...

PS: I suggest to use small maps, for example WRACKDM17, with this mod. CE1M7 is not advisable, IMHO, because you can't get out of the lava (that does not kill you) unless you change g_gravity!

Well, there is a bug with it, AFAIK, the Sorceress's (played by Rai) lightning gun is too big on the screen. But I think I'll leave that now. Actually I'm happy that the model changes were successful by editing the qvms with Notepad++.

If fromhell finishes the uniting of the models' textures, I'll have to rewrite the package for 0.9.0. When that happens, I try to change the weaponmodel for the above, also I'm open about suggestions for the pieces. This was a mockup and Penguin looks a bit out of place for me.

But believe me, if you'd have only Sarges, it would be a nightmare.

I almost wanted to do all the player models for Art of War and Niflheim once

I wanted to tell you about the "weapon too big" problem...
And another thing: is it possible to change the role for Gargoyle? The character that uses the gauntlet is shown in thirdperson, and the wings of Gargoyle disturb the visual a bit...
Maybe Gargoyle could be used for one of the characters that are able to "fly" over other pieces...

Well, when I decided which model will replace which one, I didn't assign them by the roles, I assign them by similarities firstly then by random. As I said, it's a mockup.

That doesn't means they're unchangeable, but first I want to know about every problem and then fix them all once. So if anybody lists that which model should assign to which rule, I'll do that.

In the original version, Klesk was that grunt model and because there is a super-version also defined, I chose Gargoyle for that task. I don't know any spare model which could be assigned for the role. Maybe Grism with a Classic skin for super.... since I use Indigo for SuperSarge.

I did some other try.
Also the "sorceress", that uses Angelyss/Rai too, suffers from the weapon bug, like the "archer"...

The bug that if you use the "join" menu when you are mid-game you will always end to spectate happens also under Q3.

Also another bug affects it under both OperArena and Q3A, too: if I create a multiplayer match: sometimes the console begins writing many (continuous) error messages about the g_knockback value, that it says is out of range... while it is set to 1000 (the default) instead...

Great. The spectator bug needs a disassembled or uncompiled qvm to fix. What I don't have. But that knockback problem sounds like another mismatch.

I'll do some tests as well and then try to fix what I find.

I just updated the my previous post: the g_knockback error messagge happens also under Q3A...

What about making a try to see if the email of the author (that is in the readme file) is still valid/used? Maybe he could still have the source code of the mod...

Yes do it, some old Q3 projects are just in dust and ignore they could be quite valuable to us.

E-mail have been sent. Although Google didn't find an usage of that e-mail address after 2003, Hotmail could send that mail.

But still, if there will be no reply, I must ignore the leftover bugs.

For the "weapon too big" big, I was thinking... is it possible to change the weapon with another one? Maybe one taken from an old OA release (I started playing the game with 0.8.5... thus I'm not sure, but maybe I read somewhere that some weapon models have been updated through time)...

It's not the weapon model's problem, it's the structure of Angelyss which results with that stupid weapon placement.

Usually a model is sliced to three part, head, torso and legs, but for Angelyss, these aren't valid. The whole model is in one part to have a bouncing breast, AFAIK, and in normal play this isn't a problem since the camera's/monitor's placement is fixed. In this mod it also varies and I think that for some pieces, it's attached to the torso, what Angelyss's modelfile doesn't have.

Angelyss's special status has been numerously mentioned, and I did the mistake by not counting that in.

My next version will exclude Angelyss, since she could be used in only those cases, where the camera is in third-person's view. And those figures are good as is.

Well, I fixed the model-related problems.

Wiki will be updated.

Also, if I got an e-mail reply, I'll rewrite the mod... but the name will be different, IMO. Also, Angelyss is included as Phoenix.

The costume and the bare midriff needed the unification. You can't do a pastiche of ridiculous japan-influenced conceptual female warrior design on the 3-components player layout. You also have to consider the tag_torso split visibly affecting shading. I didn't want that on her, so that's how it was done. It wasn't for the bouncing breasts - that one was a bonus.

Also, the long hair of arachna made her head an upper.md3 component.




Weapons Factory Arena I thought was very fun, but the models are all skins on Q3 stock stuff, and WFA has been forgotten about in a long time I kind of feel bad for them!!!

Oh, sorry about Angelyss.

But don't give up hope about WFA. It's still available on Fileplanet (http://www.fileplanet.com/75303/0/section/Weapons-Factory-Arena), so I give that a try, too.

ARQ patch download on my hosting updated. Thank you Graion!

I have WFA working on OpenArena.  It's at 71.236.85.115:27967, called "Weapons Factory Arena - Fast D/L" in the server list.

Hi!
I've just learnt (reading here (http://www.q3df.org/board/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=387), where you can see a video -which uses a third-party map available there-) that it exists a 2D Quake 3 mod. It's called Quake III Platformer.
http://www.quakeunity.com/file=1676

I don't know when I will have some time to try it and to see if it works with OpenArena or not... however, if you wanna take a look in the meanwhile and let us know...

Another 2D mod is Target Quake 3.

Not searched for Target Quake 3 yet...

... but I tested Quake III Platformer on OpenArena 0.8.8 and it works!  :) Well, it is better if you use a Q3A2OA texture compatibility pack, but it's ok.  :)

Wiki page about it created:
(DO NOT LINK) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/ModCompat/Quake_III_Platformer

Enjoy!  ;D

I'll have to look into Target Quake 3 myself later today, these 2D-style mods are pretty interesting. ^^

The wiki page is very informative, Gig! I was about to post a screenshot here myself, since I tested it out yesterday, (Same missing texture issues as you encountered, except running works for me.) but you already have all of that covered. =P It's an interesting mod, I'm always surprised by how extensively Quake III can be modified without touching the binary at all. If aiming worked, I could easily see potential for a Small Arms style game coming out of something like that. (If anyone decided to take on a 2D project, of course. I'm tempted to do it in the future, personally!)

What do you mean with "running works for me" and "if aiming worked"?
The Q3APlatformer bug is that if you use the keyboard for everything, and press left(or right)+up(or down)+fire at the same time, it does not correctly handle the three things at once, and one of them does not work. The workaround is simply to use a mouse button for one of them. In the wiki page, that small troubleshooting section is the only part I copy-pasted directly from the mods readme file. Isn't that clear enough?

Bye! :)

This must have been my face while I was skimming over the readme doc. (http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/misc-genius.png) It should have been clear enough in the Whats_new file, but I wasn't reading it very thoroughly, which I usually do the exact opposite of with pretty much everything. Sure made myself look like an idiot, might as well have asked how to jump.

And I only just now realized how aiming works, since I noticed the mod's q3config file had some different settings than what I have configured on OA. Before that, I just thought aiming was limited to straight-ahead when moving the mouse did nothing. Now I'm that much more interested in the mod, especially with the camera scrolling mentioned in the build_platformer_maps doc. Now to figure out how to get joysticks cooperating. =P It seems to be disabled and removed from the UI, probably for a reason. In the meantime I have QJoyPad. :)

I've found some links about it:
http://www.fileplanet.com/53202/download/Target-Quake-3-v1.0 (main file)
http://www.fileplanet.com/53202/50000/fileinfo/Target-Quake-3-v1.0 (same as above)
http://www.fileplanet.com/53203/50000/fileinfo/Target-Quake-3-v1.1-patch (patch)

http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Quake3.Detail&id=1077 (short but interesting description -it mentions 3 gametypes (TeamBall, VolleyBall, and OldWestShootout)-, but download link not working)
http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Quake3.Detail&id=1078 (download link not working)

Unfortunately, v1.0 is for Q3A 1.17, and version 1.1 does not seem to have changed this. Thus, also v1.1 does not work with OA, that is compatible with mods designed for Q3 1.27 and above, IIRC.

Do you have an updated version of Target Quake 3?

HEY, I've found this other download:
http://www.fileplanet.com/54318/50000/fileinfo/Target-Quake-Beta-2

This "beta2" version seems to be a patch later than v1.1, because it works with OpenArena. Probably it's the Q3 1.27 compatibility patch, I guess (note: while starting a match, an on-screen message reports version 1.02).

So, I installed 1.0 + 1.1 + beta2 in the same folder, and it seems to work, more or less.
Maps lacks many textures (q3a2oa compatibility pack very advisable, if you want to play it in OA)... but the real problem is with bots, that seem to be quite effective while shooting, but not very smart at movement.

Unfortunately, readme file is included in version 1.0 only, and explains nothing about the mod mechanics, gametypes, etc.
I've seen a beach-themed level (maybe the "Volleyball" mode mentioned above), but I've not been able to actually play it... while others seem working DM or CTF levels.

Anyway, it seems nice enough to give it more time for testing... unlike Q3 plaftormer, all maps scroll vertically and horizontally, and you can aim using the mouse.

Trivia: version 1.0 includes "scripts" and "vm" folders NOT PACKED into PK3 files... is this supposed to work in "pure server" mode? And who "wins" if you have a VM in a PK3 and one outside?

If anyone has tested it and has more infos to give us, it would be appreciated!  :)

- UPDATE - complete 1.02 (working) version found. See following posts (or jump to http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=3684.msg44877#msg44877).

Thanks for posting all that info, Gig, but I tried combining all three packs into one mod folder, and it's the same flashing - virtually blank - UI I got when I first grabbed the 1.0 release on a Google search. Had to exit from the console because I couldn't see the "Quit" button.

EDIT : Er, never mind, it's simply not cooperating with the custom branch of 8.8 here (https://github.com/undeadzy/openarena_engine), strangely. So I'll probably have to download the vanilla 8.8 linux binaries again, and dump them in my home folder in order to play this natively on 'nix.

Outside of that, I'm really blown away with this mod, and should probably grab that compatibility pack, or run this from Quake III when I launch it on-top of OA's binary. I'm surprised (Yet again.) that this much can be done in a mod without ever touching the source code, especially the aiming mechanics and camera scrolling that's implemented in Target Quake 3. That rotating title screen is pretty fancy too, IMO. ^^ Definitely plan on playing this seriously, it's pretty complete as-is.

I've done some more testing, this time adding the q3a2oa texture compatibility patch: this way, the game is much more enjoyable. :) Target Quake seems worth to be played!

Bots seems to have problems only in some maps or modes... in general, it seems quite playable.
Note about bots: in the single player deathmatch tiers (at least in the first tier!), only one bot fits the names of q3 bots and thus only one is automatically in the game. Things are a bit better for skirmish mode, but anyway you may wish to manually change some of them, or you will have less bots than expected.

I wonder if and when will OpenArena place bots matching all the names of the original q3 bots? This would allow better mod and map (thinking to .arena and arenas.txt files) compability. Providing specific models would be great -giving more compatibility-, but would be a very long work -unless making copies of existing oa models-... but making "dummy" bots that use existing models and chat personalities, with q3 names, would be enough to fix some compatibility problems.
Fromhell, are there some plans about this?

PS: Fromhell, do you know the correct target quake patches? Is it 1.0 + 1.1 + beta2, in this order? Or is there something else?

Hey, this Target Quake Arena is a really funny mod...

If you want, I've managed to create a very simple fix to let TQ add the bots it wants. This simply prevents you from the need of manually select/add the bots while starting TQ matches.
TQ searches for Orbb, Bitterman, Grunt and Klesk Q3A bots, but OpenArena only contains one named "Grunt" (so only Grunt is automatically used in single player deathmatch mode, and you would have to manually add more bots). So I created this "fix" (or do you prefer "hack"?) .bot file with few lines like these:
This way we add to the game the three missing bots... altough they are "fake" because they simply re-use existing OA models and bot personalities.

Usage: simply copy TQfixbotsOA-02.pk3 (attached to this post) into your "tq" folder, then launch OpenArena and the Target Quake Arena mod.

PS: what about making a more comprehensive OA patch, to create "fakes" (meaning "replacements") for all the Q3 bots, to improve general compatibility with mods and maps designed for Q3A that search for them? Of course, creating proper models and bot personalities, instead, would be a REAL solution, but it would be a HUGE work... while this "dirty workaround" (maybe left as a separate fix?) should be quick enough...
I admit that making a long list of "duplicated" characters (different name, but same model/personality... but hey, what about mixing models and personalities?) would not be very nice looking... but again, we may let that a separate, unofficial fix, if you prefer. What do you think about that?

UPDATE: I updated from TQfixbotsOA-01.pk3 to TQfixbotsOA02.pk3 because I realized in TDM mode it searched for Visor bot, too... to I updated the tweak with a fake for it, too.

An engine-side filesystem model/player alias definition file could be a decent workaround for q3 mods dependent on specific player models.

the file would contain stuff like:

Engine side? That could be very interesting...
But question: maybe would that be a less flexible solution, because you may not be able to override it by simply creating a custom pk3?

To make (almost) complete q3 mod compatibility, one should have some kind of "redirection" for models/skins, bots and even maps (e.g. q3dm17 --> wrackdm17). Making this at engine level could be good (and may be possible to enable or disable it at will by using a specific cvar?)... but is there a risk that hard-coded tweaks may collide with different OA versions? E.g. in a future version you may create a your version of Orbb... and then OA should use that new model instead of the "fake" one, possibly without the need to recompile the engine for that.  

Do you think it would be possible to let pk3s/vms "win" if they
provide their own tweaks about models/bots/maps?

And switching from oa 0.8.x to the next generation, of course that would need to be updated too...

UPDATE: Only now I notice you mentioned "engine side FILESYSTEM FILE"... so of course the phrase about the "hard-coded" thing I wrote before should be a little different, considering you are NOT telling to incorporate the redirects directly in the source code (my misreading).

About Target Quake Arena, i've found out a little more. -UPDATE: complete 1.02 download found, it's ok, see below. -

Thanks to the great WayBack Machine, we can see how their site was:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011109212301/http://zeroping.com/targetquake/index.cfm
Now, let's put our attention to the these sections there:
So, we can assume that the three files we previously found (see this post (http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=3684.msg44846#msg44846)) are:
* The initial 1.0 release (for Q3 1.17, thus not compatible with OA)
* The 1.01 patch (still for Q3 1.17, and with the filename 1_1 a bit misleading -should have been 1_01, IMHO-)
* The second beta of the patch to make it compatible with Q3 1.27 (and later) -already showing the scheduled "1.02" version name while playing-.
After that "second" beta, they created a third one, and then a complete 1.02 package (that should not need the 1.0 package).

In the description about the complete 1.02 package, we finally have some hints about the unconventional game types.
http://web.archive.org/web/20011203152652id_/http://www.zeroping.com/targetquake/engine_files.cfm?Page=4&File=2426

The question now is... where can we get that 30 MB "Target Quake Arena v1.02 .zip"?

UPDATE... founding this (http://www.3d-zone.org/3d-zone/htm/d_q3a_mods.htm), it seems "Target Quake Arena v1.02" may be also "tqarena1_02-ZP.zip"... and searching for that, I arrived here (http://www.superkeff.net/mods.html), to this: http://www.superkeff.net/mods/mods/target_quake/tqarena1_02-ZP.zip ... let's try it! :)

PS: however, is someone has got some other info/link...

UPDATE2:  tested, and it works well. They fixed some some bugs that were in beta2. So, just download the tqarena1_02-ZP.zip and you're okay. If you wanna a more refined compatibility, add the very small bot patch I created here (http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=3684.msg44871#msg44871), and the usual q3a2oa texture compatibility patch, and you are ok! :)

UPDATE3: uploaded the mod to a faster host. You can follow this link do download the mod: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60263008/oth_mods/TQ/tqarena1_02-ZP.zip and this one to download my small bot patch for it: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60263008/oth_mods/TQ/TQfixbotsOA-02.pk3 ... (note: ok, I've updated the link with my version 02 of the small fix)

Okay guys. I've prepared a quite careful page about Target Quake Arena in the wiki: (DO NOT LINK) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/ModCompat/Target_Quake_Arena

Now, it is your turn to try the mod!  :)

Bye!

Er, sorry for the late reply, I've been trying to figure out why the latest beta version isn't behaving on the Official Linux binary. :#

This, plus your bot patch, works great on Windows and WINE! I enjoy the mod a lot more now that single player is playable and polished, but while booted into Linux, I get this odd error whether or not your bot patch is present in the mod folder.


I don't know what default configuration file it's looking for, since there is a q3config.cfg from OpenArena copied into the mod's folder. Maybe there is an unintentional snag somewhere on my end, (Would including more of the crash log be useful?) so I doubt other Linux players will bump into the same issue.

Your baseoa folder is missing somehow in the search path.

Like fromhell said, baseoa is missing in the options. How are you launching the game/mod?

Wait, so is that what the "1" is for in-front of the the search path? o_o'


Oh, so it's not starting properly? I'm using a custom launcher on XFCE to boot the game.

This is the command for my launcher on the desktop.


Script for the bright_launcher, since I still haven't worked out the darkness on Xorg.


Then the relevant lines of the launcher script for OpenArena


Holy cow, I feel bad for going through three different steps just to launch this game. :# I'm starting to think just cutting out the need for the third one by removing "sh" from the second might help, as you mentioned in another thread. Is the second script from the Software Center fudging up the known directory?

EDIT : Yeah, removing the sh fixed that! Enjoying the mod natively on 'nix right now. I'll still need this script for launching Quake III through OA, but now I can pretty run the main game by itself now. =P