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nicknames:

abused, idclip or unnamedplayer


what i play:

hosts using rail+insta-mode or excessive.
ROFL all rockets + anything but pure oa.
(all of course thanks to oa being here.)


free advice on makin a ctf gg:

strive for even teams + speed
= creates high impact events.


things one should learn:

- defrag (enough said)


players i respect:

assrape, c, integer


clans i respect:

none.


banned on:

3W, GoD


useful console:

/cg_fov
/com_maxfps
/cg_railtracetime
/bind q say
/bind z say
/bind x kill
/cg_chatbeep
/cg_draw2d
/map ps37ctf
/callvote g_speed
/callvote g_gravity


how to:

- add rotoscoping to open arena in linux?
- replace sounds of oa with original idq3?


links:

http://quake3tweaks.tripod.com/commands.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T6IAHWMd2I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9zMo9-zchQ


otherwise:

cats, codin c:\> _ and playing ps3..

The first isn't possible, since Q3/OA animations would be huge if they'd use rotoscope. Also, there isn't any motion capturing technique behind OA. And I think it'd end with a slowdown if the animation.cfg would use that many frames.

The second is possible although I don't like the idea.

you may admit its is a legitimate idea if you own the original q3.
to be honest i would also like the original model for machinegun.

If you own it... well this change the whole situation.

Copy pak0.pk3/sounds to a new pk3 starting with a letter after p. You should know that pk3 are simple zips, and that's all.

Although I'd drop out the player sounds for obvious reasons.  ;)

EDIT: Models/weapons... but I'm not pretty sure. I didn't tested this. I do know that the sounds will work, but the MG...

some mods lets u have it, but a simple file-switch would be nice.
regardless of sound it sure looks alot better than the oa version.

This cvar does not seem to exist, at least in the baseoa...
Uh? Is it possible to callvote for them without using custom votes? :-/

get the feeling you already know the answers to your questions..
its cg_chatsound, right? and regarding the voting, it is possible.
why admins choose to restrict their servers is not rly clear to me.
im sure some smart admin can tell me but really its not relevant.
this is irony letting admins know they should keep options open.

IDQ3 sounds are copyrighted by Id, thus there's no way for them to come in OA's official packages, both for license and copyright infringement.

EDIT: It count as well for the Q3 original models.

Uh? :-/
I don't know if there is a cvar for that (that should disable the small "beep" when someone sends a message, right?)... cg_chatsound seems to not exist as well.
I tried to add g_speed and g_gravity at the end of my g_voteNames cvar, but if I try to call a vote for them, it still says that they are not valid.

A thing I don't understand is why it has not been implemented a callvote to change the capturelimit.

easy, because you should set it to zero, meaning no limit =)

@Graion, it seems like rotoscoping has been implemented in ioquake3 (check the video abused left in link). Though this patch may have not found its way into the main tree. I think I found it here (https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3422), though it is very likely it won't come into standard OA and so you have to apply the patch yourself if you want to test.

@abused

That could explain why you think there are options like /callvote g_speed or /cg_chatbeep in standard OA, but there isn't and AFAIK there wasn't either in standard Q3. There probably is in excessive or in noghost and others mods.

I think an option to disable chatbeep in OA could be nice, in particular because the current sound is a bit loud and can be annoying.

1000th post ... :D

Nice, next stop: 50 cakes :).

Wow you respect 3 players out the community, awesome!!! ;D

I love it. I even made it the message beep for my IRC client.  :)

This is not available in baseoa , but OSP , CPMA , E+ and UltraFreeze mods have it ... very useful to quit the chat beep

I guess some mods can also change the default sound through cg_chatsound cvar

ok.. so how about removing the soundfile.. ? or replacing it with a "silent" wav-file?
replacing it is probably the best - so what is the name and location of that file?

Check inside OA pk3s, you'll probably find it in some sounds\ directory.
You could create another PK3 which replaces the default sound, though that would only work on unpure servers.
Do not edit OA pk3s because it will corrupt your PK3 and you won't be able to join pure servers anymore.
Note: pk3s are just .zip files which were renamed.

What he really means is that lame GLSL postprocessing effect that downbits the screen and sticks ugly black outlines everywhere. There was a rotoscope OA 0.7.1 test binary a LONG TIME AGO and it looked freaking ugly. It made polygons appear even MORE faceted!

It's an ugly hack novelty that lasts so short.

The patch was updated : maybe it looked ugly in Openarena but now it gives a nice and appreciated "old cartoon effect" to other games like Smokin' Guns : http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?&topic=4012.msg36725#msg36725

I disagree, I still think rotoscoping is ugly. There's weird pink and green color drifting in it

A better way to cartoon things would to be to take advantage of normals and light to determine outlines and ambient shading. The engine can't do normal mapping or phong shading to begin with though, but I did something like this in Darkplaces while figuring out this GLSL thing. The advantage of this method is that you still have your full color range and you can go into dark areas without a sudden drop in intensity. The disadvantage of it is that it's worse on lower poly stuff or anything without much normals precision - it'll lead to thicker outlines. The best part is the fact the outlines don't add to everything and get in the way and all that -  they're variable width!

Is someone interested into trying the old cell shading patch for Q3A?
http://q3cellshading.sourceforge.net/

And it seems GPLv2 (http://q3cellshading.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/q3cellshading/tags/1.0/COPYING.txt?revision=34&view=markup)... (obviously, OpenArena should not turn to Cell shading, but maybe as an additional option it could be nice).

I think that means no.

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quake live has this rly nice post processing.. oa hasnt.
im talking about filters/options here, not static changes.
so what about real time motion blur or sum other effect?

believe me i've tried to get harekiet to help to no avail :( at least he pulled off porting the non-GLSL bloom over. Nice GLSL bloom would be nice someday

Yeah that's why you aren't on my respect-list :P

RMF i cant help to notice youre a GoD-fanboy (or whatever, posting on their boards and so on)
so what happened to the player integer? did he get tired of the GoD-1337clanwhore-mentality?

God-fanboy by posting on their forums, rofl sure xD

/parts

so u evade the question about integer.. why?

why integer when you can float?

.. or why even make sense if u can do 1337 coding remarks?

10 PRINT "Hello World!"
20 GOTO 10
30 END =)

(http://www.myemoticons.com/images/patriotic-military/guns-ammo/rocket-launcher-1.gif)

I love BASIC. That's why I do know what your program does, "Mr. 1337". A note: Infinite loops are the enemies of a programmer.

Oh, FYI I'm not a GoD fanboy.

Keep it real?

floats are real, complex are imaginary :p but nice try

i ever thought this is virtual...
Damn :D

Be rational!
(yeah I know that's not a variable type but a kind of number, and actually I stole it (http://www.marciotnferreira.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/be-rational-get-real.jpg) as well :P)