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I've started to port previous versions of maps for future versions of OA. Players might prefer these versions instead of our improved ones for different reasons. Though we're not going backwards (:P) these versions are offered for offline/server play. These versions have their building/playing problems fixed and have also many stuff for proper game support.

Some considerations:
* The maps have different names, so not to clash with the current ones. For example, am_galmevish from 0.8.1, the map name is 081am_galmevish; am_underworks from 0.8.5 is 085am_underworks and so on...
* These versions are considered non-official versions, and as such, aren't officially supported nor are we going to include them in official releases. If anything, we want to move on from the "ugly" visuals which already makes OA gaming's favourite punchbag.

General changes in all of the maps:
- Location messages added for teamgames.
- Music added.
- Level titles corrected to mirror their OA 0.8.8 counterparts
- Some rebuilding needed because they contained errors.
- New levelshots.
- Intermission points.
- info_player_start changed to info_player_deathmatch. Every info_player_deathmatch has the "initial" flag set to 1.
- CTF-based maps have support for every CTF-based gametype: CTF, 1FCTF, Harv, Over, eCTF, Elim, DD.
- FFA-based maps have support for FFA, LMS, and depending on their size, TDM, Tourney and Elimination.

Map-specific changes:
- oa_bases5 is now editable in newer editors such as GTKRadiant 1.5.0 and NetRadiant 1.6.0!
- am_galmevish had a problem which screwed q3map2 compilation. It's fixed.
- ctf_gate1 works properly in every gametype.
- ctf_inyard's bspc problem solved.
- ctf_inyard's clipping problem solved.
- ctf_inyard's HoM problem solved.
- hydronex is now editable with modern editors such as NetRadiant 1.6.0.

Download link list:

• Mappack 1 (http://www.moddb.com/downloads/openarena-old-versions-mappack)
  
  • fan (http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=5909) (0.7.1 version)
    
  • hydronex (http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=5919) (0.7.1 version)
    
  • oa_bases5 (http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=5907) (0.7.1 version)
    
  • oa_minia (http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=5911) (0.7.7 version)
    
  • ctf_inyard (http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=5914) (0.7.7 version)
    
  • slimefac (http://www.onykage.com/files/armageddonman/!oldversions/077slimefac.pk3) (0.7.7 version)
    
  • am_galmevish (http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=5908) (0.8.1 version)
    
  • ctf_gate1 (http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=5912) (0.8.1 version)
    
  • ps37ctf (http://www.onykage.com/files/armageddonman/!oldversions/081ps37ctf.pk3) (0.8.1 version)
    
  • am_underworks (http://www.onykage.com/files/armageddonman/!oldversions/085am_underworks.pk3) (0.8.5 version)
    
  • am_underworks2 (http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=5910) (0.8.5 version)
    

Other maps being currently worked on:

• ctf_compromise (0.7.7 version - the foggy one)
• oasago2 (0.7.1 version - the raw looking one)

You can also suggest other old versions of official maps too. =)

Nice I like this Neon_Knight, it really is prefered by most older players.

I expected it to be in the beta version of this game, but that only makes the first real version quite good to look forward to.


:)


Speaking of older versions any chance you have the previous versions of OA somewhere?

071
076 etc?

No because often the older versions have non-Free infractions.

I've also forgot to mention that the maps have different names, so not to clash with the current ones. For example, am_galmevish from 0.8.1, the map name is 081am_galmevish; am_underworks from 0.8.5 is 085am_underworks and so on...

These versions won't be supported. If anything, we want to move on from the "ugly" visuals which already makes OA gaming's favourite punchbag.

In fact, I've already placed them in the "Unofficial OpenArena Maps" page in the wiki. =)

Nice again the format of the older map versions is easy to callvotes for or to load from consoles.

ctf_inyard (0.7.7) version, ready to go.

Aside of the main changes (some of them the map already had):

- bspc compilation problem solved by way of botclipping.
- HoMs at the courtyard area fixed. Previously, many glitches were seen.
- Clipping at the central area fixed. Some gameplay may change because of this.

Waiting for the link... I'll post it here once the map is approved.

Also hydronex (v0.7.1)

Aside of the classic changes...
- Lighting fixed.
- The map is now properly editable under modern editors!
- Imbalance with boxes solved.
- Glitches with misaligned walls fixed.

Uploaded ctf_inyard (0.7.7) (http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=5914) for those who miss the death pit. :P

I never remember 0.7.7 as a release but some how i have that version on a old usb.

That's because 0.7.7 is a patch for the 0.7.6 release (it "solves" the package mismatch problem, but at the cost of backwards compatibility), like 0.7.1 was for 0.7.0 (this one fixes a problem in the "fan" map). There're practically no differences between those versions (070 with 071 and 076 with 077), so the maps were named more for convenience rather than exact historical representation.

BTW, new map uploaded, hydronex from 0.7.1. :P

I always wondered if the current OA maps can be extracted from their pak files?

Why would you want to?

For the same reason your adding them now :)

Yes, the .pk3 is just a .zip in disguise.

I'm still waiting MapRaider to upload the files, but ATM, here're the links for:

- 0.7.7 slimefac (http://www.onykage.com/files/armageddonman/!oldversions/077slimefac.pk3)
- 0.8.1 ps37ctf (http://www.onykage.com/files/armageddonman/!oldversions/081ps37ctf.pk3)
- 0.8.5 am_underworks (http://www.onykage.com/files/armageddonman/!oldversions/085am_underworks.pk3)

I'm still trying to figure out a problem with 0.7.7 ctf_compromise.

The 11 uploaded versions are now available in a single pack:
http://www.moddb.com/downloads/openarena-old-versions-mappack

Just uncompress in the openarena folder and run the game!

I've promised to deliver the 0.7.1 version of oasago2 a long time ago. In the end I've decided to use the 0.8.5 version as it already includes the bugfixes done since then.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/napt6crwg13pjrk/071oasago2.pk3?dl=0

Changelog:
- Better gametype support (including Possession)
- Replaced those uber-tris torches with lower tris ones (HUGE performance boost, less tris to render)
- Now it compiles!
- New levelshot.
- A bit of rework regarding lighting.

I'm already working on improving the current version of oasago2, starting with the RG returning to its previous position ofc (how nobody complained about this when we were working on the map on 0.8.8 dev baffles me).

You don't plan to move it back to the position where it has direct view of the flag, do you?

There was a lot of people complaining about the 0.8.8 position of the Railgun. Of course, said critics only came after 0.8.8 was released. There were also criticism about the steepiness of the bridge. Those are the first problems. I would opt for removing the RG, however the map is played in Instagib, so the only feasible option is to figure it out how to limit the RG power map-wise.

Sorry, I did not realise that it was moved in 0.8.8. I do believe that the weapon placement in 0.8.5 was as good as it gets. I do not want to go back to the 0.7.1 placement.

You will never get feedback before a release. It is considered a fact. That is why rapid releases has become so popular.

I've mentioned the change in this post (http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=4412.msg42087#msg42087). It was the only weapon/item placement change done to that map.

On the original map the Railgun and the Plasmagun was placed on the outer platforms. The only real gameplay problem as I remember was that the flag was visible from the Railgun spawn spot. Gameplay wise the only change needed was to switch the Plasmagun and the Railgun. A small change with large (positive) effect.

I did not want to remove the railguns from the platforms. In a 5v5 bot match it was part of the map that rails would fire back and forth while crossing the bridge.

Noted. However the person who gave me the feedback told me that keeping the RG in the ledge would give players who spawn in that position a way to fight back people at the rest of the visible area from that point.

Another suggestion I was given was to place the Railgun in the bridge at the middle of the map, but I think it's overkill.

Here's the full text:


Here's the source file: http://pastebin.com/VqQSEhiX

And here's the source of the feedback: https://www.reddit.com/r/openarena/comments/4wsn91/feedback_on_official_maps_as_of_088/

EDIT: Just for the record, here's another piece of feedback I've received, this time in a closed Facebook group:

The first feedback comment seems to be the same thing I say. The railgun back on the railgun platform in the place that targets the bridge.

The second feedback comment would make a whole other map.

Just a little heads-up.

I've opened a maintenance repo for this as well:

https://github.com/NeonKnightOA/oaolderversions

Newer releases:

• fan (0.7.1) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/uhq0fkqov7r3nkl/071fan-v2.pk3?dl=0) v2
  • Improved bot playing. Bots now won't throw themselves to the pit as often as before.
  • Added more spawnpoints, in order to prevent telefragging.
• hydronex (0.7.1) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/8jbmkl91puukzuo/071hydronex-v3.pk3?dl=0) v3
  • Added more spawnpoints (previously only 4 per team, now 10)
  • Clipped ramps.
  • Some minor optimizations.
  • Properly tagged key objectives for teamgames.
• oa_bases5 (0.7.1) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/tooidlowbonjy4g/071oa_bases5-v2.pk3?dl=0) v2
  • Added more spawnpoints for team games.
  • Fixed bad texture scaling.
  • Fixed overbright ambient lighting.
  • Properly tagged key objectives for teamgames.
• oasago2 (0.7.1) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zhvq9j4c24tiw6b/071oasago2-v3.pk3?dl=0) v3
  • Properly tagged key objectives for teamgames.
• slimefac (0.7.7) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4b8hqwxhgc5gk3e/077slimefac-v2.pk3?dl=0) v2
  • Added support for Possession.
• ctf_gate1 (0.8.1) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/077822l7rcw9th2/081ctf_gate1-v2.pk3?dl=0) v2
  • Properly tagged key objectives for teamgames.
• ps37ctf (0.8.1) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/tdrv3j2m2utd1ud/081ps37ctf-v2.pk3?dl=0) v2
  • Properly tagged key objectives for teamgames.
• oasago2 (0.8.5) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/jf84v9zp6c9nrzn/085oasago2.pk3?dl=0) v1
  

Not sure if it is right spot but I want also to share a improved version of a original 0.88 map set:

q3dm6ish

reasons for touch that map:

- I like the concept of that map, to have a q3dm6 layout style at OA
- sorry for saying but the map was terrible
- too claustrophobic, too much architecture fail and too odd

My changes:

- increasing the high of the roof
- changing the style of the stairs.
- enlarging some zones of the whole map
- add some architectural details

That is maybe not the final state, but it shall now be a better map feeling.
I do not have care for now much about the texturing
Want also not to destroy the whole map and sorry for converting and modding that map  xD

Here the download:
https://app.box.com/s/c83kysy0z8uthyphc5sibizfeg2uyvow

Hope you will like my changes

Also I am not sure this is the right thread for that...

However, it would be nice to see that map with proper lightning.

PS: Some items on the pillar seem "misaligned".

Whats the problem with the lightning?

How to describe it? It's "flat", there aren't different shades...

I have already tried my hand at a q3dm6ish. Eventually I just redid the whole map from scratch.

http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=2425.0

Thanks I have done a look into it. Yes I have also fix a lot of brush errors ... dear that map was a BSP massacre.

So a job you also have done. The tread is from 2011 you still work on that?
Have read you had issues to compile your last *.map file, I like to take a look into it.

If you like Neon we can make a cooperation to bring q3md6ish to aggressor like.

I would realy like to see polish of some default OA maps.  

You can take a look at my work the *.map file is with inside my *.pk3 file.
Maybe it is not needed to remake it from scratch ... I can remove all the lights and put some new lighting from scratch.

Regarding brush work I have a lot of ideas that cames up while take my hand at these "map improvement project"  

wow have looked at your map file.

That is not the original map thats already a new version from scratch or?

However it looks realy nice and much better than the original one. There is more structure in the layout.  :-*

There is some missing textures on my build  :(

evil4_walls/d_stonewll_drk

Download link seems broken...

have compiled the map file ...  :o ... wow its that a huge map. maybe a little too huge.
But better that claustrophobic maps  ;)

one think I have seen the stairs is not possible to use, steps are to high (see screenshot below)
Steps can only taken by jumps.... :(  step by step = jump by jump

 :-\  hhmmmm  ... verry big dimensions of the map and stairs with to high steps...  have I some scale issues on my side?

EDIT:

The steps have a high of 32 in my editor  ???
A reasonable value of that high would be 16 or better 8 .... see my animation below (damn, upload folder full, sorry)

That's a texture from Nexuiz I forgot to pack with the pack (lol).

If you want, you can continue from where I have left. OA will get rid of the Quake tributes (they're going to be available in a separate mappack (http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=4425.0), it has its own repository in Github (http://www.github.com/NeonKnightOA/oatributemappack)).

Here I uploaded new links: http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=2425.msg55677#msg55677