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Title: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: matija123 on August 31, 2013, 09:12:12 AM
Soo I was like searching on Youtube, and I saw dfwc bot competition its seems to be pretty cool... I asked Z0rn guy about that, he dont want to answer me yet. Does anyone know how to script strafe, I know i need to use notepad, but dont know the commands :)


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: fromhell on August 31, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
and I thought those old "rocket jump alias" scripts for Quake were bad....


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: Gig on September 01, 2013, 03:38:24 AM
Uh? I've looked at some of those videos on youtube... they are (or at least seem) Defrag vids... but I have not understood. Are you saying that those we see there are BOTs that have learnt how to play DO NOT LINK[/b]) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/ModCompat/DeFRaG]Defrag mod (http://([b)?  :-\ Or what?


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: andrewj on September 01, 2013, 03:46:27 AM
I think he's talking about binding keys to make you strafe jump (instead of putting in some effort to learn the skill itself).


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: Gig on September 01, 2013, 03:56:42 AM
I think he's talking about binding keys to make you strafe jump (instead of putting in some effort to learn the skill itself).
I can guess that would be cheating. Easier strafe jumping would give unfair advantage against other people. I can guess it's better to do not enter that territory.


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: matija123 on September 01, 2013, 05:37:23 AM
I was about to test it in Practice mode. Not online. And boting is not cheating!  ::)


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: RMF on September 29, 2013, 01:59:50 PM
boting is not cheating!
Then what is cheating? Playing unfairly? What is unfair if it's considered fair to let the computer play for you (i.e. botting)?

You want to go home and rethink your life.


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: Suicizer on September 29, 2013, 02:53:42 PM
I was about to test it in Practice mode. Not online. And boting is not cheating!  ::)

Boating isn't cheating, botting is...


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: PopeJo on September 30, 2013, 01:15:25 AM
scripting can be fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SchYKK21Mgw

sources:
http://www.esreality.com/post/683295/deception-by-tchouky/
http://www.quakeunity.com/file=2060

You might try to ask in the IRC-Channel #defrag on quakenet if anyone has links to a how-to, or similar..


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: *Ruthless* on October 03, 2013, 07:23:47 AM
and I thought those old "rocket jump alias" scripts for Quake were bad....

At least I know another person who thinks rocket jump scripts are crap. Anything not done manually is cheating, I dont care..

I Think future releases of OpenArena should take out the use of such scripting, like the strafe scripts. It's very unfair for players who use their skills against scripts.


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: Gig on October 03, 2013, 07:59:20 AM
scripting can be fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SchYKK21Mgw
If I understand... for that video, they used scripts for instructing the Visor bot to co-operate with the human player to perform the tricks, right? I mean, they teached the bot to "shoot a rocket to point A when the human player reaches boint B, so the human player will meet the rocket at point C, and the explosion will bring him up to point D"... right?


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: PopeJo on October 03, 2013, 11:12:15 AM
scripting can be fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SchYKK21Mgw
If I understand... for that video, they used scripts for instructing the Visor bot to co-operate with the human player to perform the tricks, right? I mean, they teached the bot to "shoot a rocket to point A when the human player reaches boint B, so the human player will meet the rocket at point C, and the explosion will bring him up to point D"... right?

exactly.

and you can also script the bots to strafe jump, so you can do team-tricks with strafe-jumping bots. and that kind of scripting can be quite artful, as this 9 year old (!) video shows  :)


Title: Re: Strafe bot scripting?
Post by: *Ruthless* on October 07, 2013, 07:57:11 AM
What is real 'art' is doing it manually and performing team tricks at the same time. I don't view this as 'art', but as what can be done manually, if enough skill is achieved. Only that would make it true 'art'. Considering the fact that many players have made awesome defrag movies using a mouse, time, and dedication, and not a script to make things 'easier'.