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2 bases with a big pool in each with a flag on a floaty thing on it, room connected to two other rooms that also connect to outside. probably windows. outside is watery, rocky and watery.

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Made a map which kind of meets your descriptions.

http://quadropolis.us/node/3170 (http://quadropolis.us/node/3170)

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Please provide at least a pencil sketch of what you had in your mind, then.

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Holy Crap...... it's hard to decipher this sketch.....

Can you make another more specific, please ?

;)

Let's see:
- The drawing is half of the map (duplicate and rotate for the other half).
- There is a pool on the ground.
- There is a bridge over the pool.
- The pool is in an "open" space (limited by trees on the left, and by buildings on the right).
- One enters the buildings to go to the other half of the map.

I can guess it's something like this:
http://www.suomiviaggi.it/upload_img/giappone%2010%20Zao-onsen.jpg
http://www.buonenotizie.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Onsen.jpg
(Plus the bridge)

Yes please, especially the part with Sorceress bathing  :P

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the center of the map in the building could probably be expanded upon for the sake of scale and vis.  roofs are forbidden entry

I'm building something......
....... ::)

(http://i.imgur.com/n3MiqSa.jpg)


I think we need a more specific draw, like Suicizer do with oa_suicizer   :giggity:

 :)

Uh? Wasn't Fromhell aready doing the map by herself? :-/

Whoops...... ok, nevermind.....  xD

I misunderstood the meaning of the scratch....

 ;D

Don't worry Akom, your map is different enough from that sketch to be considered a separate work ;)

Right now my map's literally a tiny pool, no bridge, and 4 big wooden brushes as the screenshot i posted. because i realized i'm not a mapper

Akom, maybe you should do some tests using fog shaders before going too far. If not the whole area has to be in fog, but only the "pool" part (a fog column?), as the fog should represent water vapour, fog shaders limitations may be a problem...

[edit reason: I forgot an "f" in "if", so the phrase looked "I not the whole area", which was quite senseless]

I disagree.  The point of the fog is to give the appearance of steam without excess amounts of steam sprites. Q3's fog system isn't as versatile as Unreal's unfortunately, so if you cross the edge of a fog brush you'll see the opaque edge of the fog. There's no soft falloff (unless that could be done in the renderer somehow siimilar to Doom3's "fog" light glows. andrewj?)

 

Excuse me, do you disagree about what? About doing tests with fog? :-/

PS: I fixed a typo in my previous post, which may have made a phrase to be unclear.

So, what are you planning to do with this map ?

Need help or not ? I mean mapping help... :P

;)

Maybe though my toolchain is probalby incompatible (QuArK)

in the meantime here's some rough textures i've made earlier. GPLv2. they go in textures/oa_sento/ and should be TGAs

I don't really understand how fog works in the Q3 renderer, nor how it could be done *well* with OpenGL 1.x tech.

If I was going to try a steam effect, I'd probably try doing it like rain/snow, i.e. adding a reasonable number of sprites to the scene in the cgame code.

It happened something terrible and mysterious....  ???

I only entered the rocks around the lake and after compiling this is the result ....

(http://i.imgur.com/fpBgOkm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/i54zvps.jpg)

The map has no leacks and i don't know WTH it's happened....

However I did not understand if we have to construct the map or not....

;)

I run into that problem all the time myself :( I think it's due to q3map2 being picky about vertex precision. You'd probably have to nudge the offending terrain vertex a little with a snap

I suppose when Fromhell said "i realized i'm not a mapper" and when she posted those texture files (although still to be converted to tga), she meant something like: "Feel free to continue working on it, Akom."

I hope this crappy blocky map file can clear up my sketch confusion a little regarding building layout. Needs more interconnectivity and some windows

also the oadev/ textures used :

When i try to load your .map, GTKradiant give s me this error:

(http://i.imgur.com/C47A6CT.jpg)

Don't know why.  :(

However, i've converted it and i can say that's pretty big  :D :D

So i miss some textures and i'm not able to find them in OA folder.....

(http://i.imgur.com/l4zMxmB.jpg)

.....XD.....
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Yeah there's going to be some textures missing, I mapped it using a bunch of crappy-made OA3 dev shaders.  The point of the .map posted are the brushes themselves representing the building inside layout because my sketch didn't convey it good enough.  So far there's just a side route straight to the other bases' upper deck room, and a route from that deck room to a central pool area with stairs that lead to the other.