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« on: April 09, 2009, 04:18:54 PM »
Im trying to trigger some trigger_hurt... to do that i created a trigger_multipe and set target =hurt. then I created the trigger_hurt i set targetname=hurt (thats how all the triggers work)... targetname is not in the list of "keys" in the entity menu as other triggerable stuff tho, I dont know why...

The trigger_hurt have a flag to start_off...

In the entity notes you can read...
"Triggering a trigger_hurt will have no effect if the START_OFF spawnflag is not set. A trigger_hurt always starts on in the game."

The thing is... it doesnt matter if you set the flag on or off... the trigger_hurt hurts all the time... Sad is it a bug? or cant it be triggerable at all and turn the damage off...

hope some1 can help Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2009, 04:39:24 PM »
What do you want to do with that trigger_hurt and trigger_multiple? Some kind of fog of death?
Take a look at these two links, they maybe can help you:

http://www.leveldk.co.uk/tut4.htm
http://www.leveldk.co.uk/tut10.htm
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2009, 06:08:08 PM »
i want a zone to hurt if some1 shoot  some button... ill read the tuts to see if i can work it out...


In the begining I wanted some platform in the air to go from here --> ----  turn into this --> | (turn from horizontal to vertical 90ยบ when some button is pushed) but i didnt find the entities to do that... so ill try to make work this hurt system that may work just as well Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2009, 12:38:00 AM »
trigger_hurt has no targetname property. check http://cosmo.spaceboyz.net/openarena/Q3Entities/ for convenience.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2009, 06:03:01 AM »
Quote from: cosmo on April 11, 2009, 12:38:00 AM
trigger_hurt has no targetname property. check
No that isn't it, since all entities can store a targetname etc (see 'struct gentity_s' in code/game/g_local.h)

The START_OFF problem is a bug.  The SP_trigger_hurt function (code/game/g_trigger.c) is supposed to not link itself into the entity list when START_OFF is given, however the call to trap_SetBrushModel implicitly does an SV_LinkEntity at the end.  Hence the START_OFF flag is busted.

Assuming that was fixed, there is also an undocumented flag (bitmask value 2 aka bit "1") which needs to be set to allow the trigger_hurt to be triggerable.

Oh yeah... the trigger is a toggle, turn on if it was off and vice versa.  I guess if you wanted a button that made the hurt only last a few seconds, then you'd need more magic Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2009, 07:28:55 AM »
Maybe something like the crusher (with a lower hurt value :-)) in
"The Very End of You"/q3-tourney6, or the lava trap in "The Frag Pipe"/q2dm3?

If the brush is invisible and doesn't WEAP_CLIP ...
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2009, 01:19:04 PM »
Quote from: andrewj on April 11, 2009, 06:03:01 AM
Quote from: cosmo on April 11, 2009, 12:38:00 AM
trigger_hurt has no targetname property. check
No that isn't it, since all entities can store a targetname etc (see 'struct gentity_s' in code/game/g_local.h)

The START_OFF problem is a bug.  The SP_trigger_hurt function (code/game/g_trigger.c) is supposed to not link itself into the entity list when START_OFF is given, however the call to trap_SetBrushModel implicitly does an SV_LinkEntity at the end.  Hence the START_OFF flag is busted.

Assuming that was fixed, there is also an undocumented flag (bitmask value 2 aka bit "1") which needs to be set to allow the trigger_hurt to be triggerable.

Oh yeah... the trigger is a toggle, turn on if it was off and vice versa.  I guess if you wanted a button that made the hurt only last a few seconds, then you'd need more magic Smiley

So is a bug, isn't it? It says like you can, but the key is not in the documentation, besides start_off does nothing. I wanted the trigger to hurt while the button is shoot... i guess is not possible to do that...

Maybe with some little elevator of 1 unit... when the button is press, it goes down 1 unit so the trigger hurts, and when it goes up 1 unit the trigger_hurt is covered so no damage.... Smiley a little work around that may work...
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2009, 03:28:23 PM »
There are some things which can't be done on a Q3 level.

http://cardigan.planetquake.gamespy.com/tips_topmappingtips.html
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2009, 07:17:17 AM »
Quote from: |TXC| Neon_Knight on April 11, 2009, 03:28:23 PM
There are some things which can't be done on a Q3 level.

"Quake 3 cannot do 'toggle' doors or switches. For example, you cannot have a button which toggles the open / shut state of a door (one press opens, the next press closes and so on)"

i guess thats what you meant... ill play with tiggers a little more... im sure ill figure out some work around by trial and error Wink

I thinking about removing that platform to make the map more enjoyable anyway... Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 02:31:00 PM »
set the spawnflag to 2, it will be triggerable.
Notes: It will start on, if you want it off, you can trigger it as soon as it spawns with a trigger_always.
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