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« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2012, 02:17:58 PM »

how do i fix me not being able to jump walls?


abit of a disadvantage...

Ask the server's admin to either disable pmove_float, or adjust the gravity with g_gravityModifier.

/EDIT: better follow Gig's advice, the wiki knows everything.
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« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2012, 04:59:36 PM »

If the admin needs info about how to do that... tell him to read "game physics" and "special game options" on the wiki.
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« Reply #77 on: February 29, 2012, 10:13:32 AM »

I just downloaded the Full 0.8.8 release from Gamefront and attempted to launch.  Based on the windowing behavior, it looks like it launches, and immediately closes again.  I downloaded the patch and applied it to a copy of my 0.8.5 installation and had the same problem.  The Linux build is working fine, so not sure what's happening.
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« Reply #78 on: February 29, 2012, 02:33:48 PM »

the wiki knows everything.
If the admin needs info about how to do that... tell him to read "game physics" and "special game options" on the wiki.

Hmm, maybe we need to patent the phrase "There's a wiki for that!" like Apple did with "There's an app for that!".
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« Reply #79 on: February 29, 2012, 09:31:51 PM »

I just downloaded the Full 0.8.8 release from Gamefront and attempted to launch.  Based on the windowing behavior, it looks like it launches, and immediately closes again.  I downloaded the patch and applied it to a copy of my 0.8.5 installation and had the same problem.  The Linux build is working fine, so not sure what's happening.
I have got kind of the same of the same problem.
The game launches for about 10 seconds but jumps back to desktop.
(screen stays bright because of gamma settings which could be fixed with the provided setgamma.exe from the troubleshooting page.)
Download of the full 0.8.8 release doesn't fix it nor does reinstall of the latest ati driver.

backup of stderr.txt had this last entry included:
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10162 files in pk3 files
OpenAL capture device closed.
RE_Shutdown( 1 )
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thought it would be some open gl issue but i am not sure what else could fix it.
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« Reply #80 on: February 29, 2012, 10:08:52 PM »

add +s_useOpenAL 0 ?

I doubt it's ATI. I use ATI.
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« Reply #81 on: February 29, 2012, 10:26:10 PM »

Me too. I also use ATI and I can run the game fine.
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« Reply #82 on: February 29, 2012, 11:22:43 PM »

thing is... everything worked totally normal even after the 0.8.8 release. the game updated itself just fine. had the latest graphic driver installed even before 0.8.8 and was able to play without incident. the game started to crash two days ago and it doesnt seem to be because of that update. removed config and latest pk3 files which didn't help and reinstalled the graphic driver without much hope (didn't help as expected). applied full 0.8.8 release couple of hours ago.

i am able to start the game and even do some changes in the gamesetting menu within a ten second time window until the game crashes.

suggestions?
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« Reply #83 on: March 01, 2012, 01:56:45 AM »

Could you please try to post more of the "stderr.txt"? Maybe there may be something useful before the last lines...
PS: I don't know if stderr.txt allows a "verbose" version with /developer 1 (like standard console does)... maybe you may try with both developer 0 and developer 1.

Direct link to the little program to reset brightness after crash:
http://icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/files/setgamma11.zip
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« Reply #84 on: March 01, 2012, 02:56:17 AM »

thx a lot for the setgamma files, found them on the troubleshooting page.

at first i will post the last entries starting up, then the previous entries before the last working game

seperated by lines:

_________________________________________________________________


----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\zih_roof.pk3 (109 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\splatctf1.pk3 (171 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\speedyctf.pk3 (73 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\soocheck-alpha1.pk3 (16 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\reptctf12.pk3 (72 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\q3wpak4.pk3 (562 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\q3wpak3.pk3 (447 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\q3wpak1.pk3 (396 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\q3wpak0.pk3 (287 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\q3wpak.pk3 (493 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\Q3floGGer1.pk3 (114 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ps9ctf.pk3 (11 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ps6ctf.pk3 (9 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ps37ctf3.pk3 (11 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\PS37CTF-MMP.pk3 (13 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\pro-q3tourney7.pk3 (10 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\pillcity.pk3 (222 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\pak6-patch088.pk3 (711 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\oasago2j.pk3 (11 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\oaN.pk3 (10 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\mxl_school.pk3 (446 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\mlctf1beta.pk3 (7 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\mkbase.pk3 (90 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\mapel4b.pk3 (59 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\map-acid3dm6.pk3 (44 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\map-13vast.pk3 (83 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\lsjg_coop.pk3 (78 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\lovet-fifth.pk3 (14 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\leetness.pk3 (6 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\hibernia.pk3 (244 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\god_ps37ctf.pk3 (15 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\god_oasago2.pk3 (12 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ghost-spoocter.pk3 (33 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ghost-luckr.pk3 (26 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ctctf.pk3 (251 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\cpm1a.pk3 (43 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\bull-highway.pk3 (30 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\bubdm1.pk3 (15 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\bubctf1.pk3 (72 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\bal3void2.pk3 (38 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\atlantis.pk3 (54 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\13ground_xt.pk3 (32 files)
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena/baseoa
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak6-patch085.pk3 (559 files)
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak6-misc.pk3 (229 files)
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak5-TA.pk3 (139 files)
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak4-textures.pk3 (1753 files)
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak2-players.pk3 (669 files)
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak2-players-mature.pk3 (231 files)
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak1-maps.pk3 (100 files)
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak0.pk3 (1042 files)
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1/baseoa

handle 1: music/OA06.ogg
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10162 files in pk3 files
OpenAL capture device closed.
RE_Shutdown( 1 )
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----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\pak6-patch088.pk3 (711 files)
    on the pure list
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak6-patch085.pk3 (559 files)
    on the pure list
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak6-misc.pk3 (229 files)
    on the pure list
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak5-TA.pk3 (139 files)
    on the pure list
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak4-textures.pk3 (1753 files)
    on the pure list
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak2-players.pk3 (669 files)
    on the pure list
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak2-players-mature.pk3 (231 files)
    on the pure list
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak1-maps.pk3 (100 files)
    on the pure list
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1\baseoa\pak0.pk3 (1042 files)
    on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\zih_roof.pk3 (109 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\splatctf1.pk3 (171 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\speedyctf.pk3 (73 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\soocheck-alpha1.pk3 (16 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\reptctf12.pk3 (72 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\q3wpak4.pk3 (562 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\q3wpak3.pk3 (447 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\q3wpak1.pk3 (396 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\q3wpak0.pk3 (287 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\q3wpak.pk3 (493 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\Q3floGGer1.pk3 (114 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ps9ctf.pk3 (11 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ps6ctf.pk3 (9 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ps37ctf3.pk3 (11 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\PS37CTF-MMP.pk3 (13 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\pro-q3tourney7.pk3 (10 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\pillcity.pk3 (222 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\oasago2j.pk3 (11 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\oaN.pk3 (10 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\mxl_school.pk3 (446 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\mlctf1beta.pk3 (7 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\mkbase.pk3 (90 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\mapel4b.pk3 (59 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\map-acid3dm6.pk3 (44 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\map-13vast.pk3 (83 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\lsjg_coop.pk3 (78 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\lovet-fifth.pk3 (14 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\leetness.pk3 (6 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\hibernia.pk3 (244 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\god_ps37ctf.pk3 (15 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\god_oasago2.pk3 (12 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ghost-spoocter.pk3 (33 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ghost-luckr.pk3 (26 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\ctctf.pk3 (251 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\cpm1a.pk3 (43 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\bull-highway.pk3 (30 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\bubdm1.pk3 (15 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\bubctf1.pk3 (72 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\bal3void2.pk3 (38 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\atlantis.pk3 (54 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\baseoa\13ground_xt.pk3 (32 files)
    not on the pure list
C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena/baseoa
F:\Programme\openarena-0.8.1/baseoa

handle 1: music/OA07.ogg
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10162 files in pk3 files
Wrote challenges.cfg
RE_Shutdown( 0 )
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
----- R_Init -----

GL_VENDOR: ATI Technologies Inc.
GL_RENDERER: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
GL_VERSION: 4.2.11399 Compatibility Profile Context
GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_AMDX_debug_output GL_AMDX_vertex_shader_tessellator GL_AMD_conservative_depth GL_AMD_debug_output GL_AMD_depth_clamp_separate GL_AMD_draw_buffers_blend GL_AMD_multi_draw_indirect GL_AMD_name_gen_delete GL_AMD_performance_monitor GL_AMD_pinned_memory GL_AMD_sample_positions GL_AMD_seamless_cubemap_per_texture GL_AMD_shader_stencil_export GL_AMD_shader_trace GL_AMD_texture_cube_map_array GL_AMD_texture_texture4 GL_AMD_transform_feedback3_lines_triangles GL_AMD_vertex_shader_tessellator GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility GL_ARB_base_instance GL_ARB_blend_func_extended GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage GL_ARB_conservative_depth GL_ARB_copy_buffer GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float GL_ARB_depth_clamp GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_draw_buffers_blend GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex GL_ARB_draw_indirect GL_ARB_draw_instanced GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_framebuffer_object GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB GL_ARB_geometry_shader4 GL_ARB_get_program_binary GL_ARB_gpu_shader5 GL_ARB_gpu_shader_fp64 GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_instanced_arrays GL_ARB_internalformat_query GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment GL_ARB_map_buffer_range GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_provoking_vertex GL_ARB_sample_shading GL_ARB_sampler_objects GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_atomic_counters GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding GL_ARB_shader_image_load_store GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_precision GL_ARB_shader_stencil_export GL_ARB_shader_subroutine GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack GL_ARB_shading_language_packing GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shadow_ambient GL_ARB_sync GL_ARB_tessellation_shader GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object_rgb32 GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_compression_bptc GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_cube_map_array GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_gather GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_multisample GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_query_lod GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_ARB_texture_rgb10_a2ui GL_ARB_texture_snorm GL_ARB_texture_storage GL_ARB_timer_query GL_ARB_transform_feedback2 GL_ARB_transform_feedback3 GL_ARB_transform_feedback_instanced GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra GL_ARB_vertex_array_object GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_64bit GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_vertex_type_2_10_10_10_rev GL_ARB_viewport_array GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap GL_ATI_fragment_shader GL_ATI_meminfo GL_ATI_separate_stencil GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_bindable_uniform GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_copy_buffer GL_EXT_copy_texture GL_EXT_direct_state_access GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 GL_EXT_draw_instanced GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB GL_EXT_geometry_shader4 GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_gpu_shader4 GL_EXT_histogram GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_float GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_provoking_vertex GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shader_image_load_store GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texgen_rø¥(GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 16384
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS_ARB: 8

PIXELFORMAT: color(24-bits) Z(24-bit) stencil(0-bits)
MODE: 9, 1600 x 1200 fullscreen hz:N/A
GAMMA: hardware w/ 0 overbright bits
rendering primitives: single glDrawElements
texturemode: GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR
picmip: 3
texture bits: 32
multitexture: enabled
compiled vertex arrays: enabled
texenv add: enabled
compressed textures: disabled
Initializing Shaders
----- finished R_Init -----
Loading vm file vm/ui.qvm...
...which has vmMagic VM_MAGIC_VER2
Loading 1555 jump table targets
VM file ui compiled to 739068 bytes of code
ui loaded in 1451648 bytes on the hunk
58 arenas parsed
33 bots parsed
Loading vm file vm/cgame.qvm...
...which has vmMagic VM_MAGIC_VER2
Loading 1235 jump table targets
VM file cgame compiled to 1079730 bytes of code
cgame loaded in 4743488 bytes on the hunk
stitched 0 LoD cracks
...loaded 11113 faces, 98 meshes, 0 trisurfs, 0 flares
WARNING: reused image textures/flares/flarey.tga with mixed glWrapClampMode parm
CL_InitCGame:  1.32 seconds
54 msec to draw all images
Com_TouchMemory: 0 msec
blacklupus^7 entered the game
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« Reply #85 on: March 01, 2012, 03:30:37 AM »

why is pak6-patch088.pk3 in your roaming folder instead of your game folder
did you join a 088 server with 085?
also try this workaround, set this variable

SDL_VIDEODRIVER=windib

then start OA


You can do this as a batch file

Code:
set SDL_VIDEODRIVER=windib
openarena.exe
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« Reply #86 on: March 01, 2012, 05:24:16 AM »

i did join a 0.8.8 server with the 0.8.5 version and it did the autodownload update. the game worked fine for a couple of days after that until two days ago.
well. i then downloaded the full 0.8.8 package after deleting all previous folders of the game last night. i still got the old folders as backup.

tried the batch file with the new package but it still cashes after some seconds. same problem, same behaviour with or without starting it with the workaround.

just managed to join a server before the game crashed but there is no openarena folder created under my user account location and no stderr.txt in the source folder. is that normal, because i thought it would do so after launching the game?
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« Reply #87 on: March 01, 2012, 07:34:39 AM »

Uhm... maybe you deleted your installation folder and then re-created it with the new package... but it seems you did not clear your "homepath" folder (in your case C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\...), because in the log you posted it loads third-party pk3s from there.

You may try to rename q3config.cfg in its "baseoa" subfolder to q3config.cfg.old, and then try again (starting with a clean configuration), or you may delete/rename the latest pk3 files you autodownloaded there (one of them may cause problems) checking their creation date, or you may rename C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena folder to OpenArena.old, and then start the game with default stuff only...

You mentioned a folder not created... uhm... if you simply launch the game and then immediately exit (even before trying to join your first server), you whould find that the "homepath" folder created. If not, check you have not problems with windows permissions: your user should be able to create files in both your OA installation folder and in your %appdata% folder.

Some readings:
(DO NOT LINK) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/FAQ#Configuration_files_and_automatic_downloaded_files_path
(DO NOT LINK) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/FAQ#Yesterday_everything_worked_correctly.2C_but_today_I_experience_strange_problems
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« Reply #88 on: March 01, 2012, 09:43:41 AM »

I already deleted both the installation folder and the homepath folder under said path.

The error occured a couple of days after the game updated itself to 0.8.alien so it is hard for me to see that the update would be the problem in the first place.
After the autoupdate i played around with some ingame graphic settings like Open GL and lighting but only used the ingame interface for that, not even the console/config.

Problem occured, so i posted in the forum and pasted those stderr.txt entries here while at the same time deleting the gamefolders and trying the full release, which didn't help. I know that it was probably an unnessary  move but whatever...

So right now there is no homepath but only the installation folder. The log doesn't apply any more but for that matter i still got both folders as a backup.

The game wouldn't create a homepath folder under C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\ and no stderr.txt in the installation folder even though i managed to join a server in that short time the game won't crash at the beginning.



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« Reply #89 on: March 01, 2012, 10:33:10 AM »

The game wouldn't create a homepath folder under C:\Users\lupus\AppData\Roaming\OpenArena\
This is very strange. If you launch the game and immediately quit, you should get that folder re-created. If it does not, I don't know what to think. Maybe you may try to launch openarena.exe +set fs_homepath <path> (where "path" may be the path to a "temp" folder on your desktop) to try to create the homepath folder in a temporary path, and see if it is created there.

PS: Did you try to set compatibility options for OpenArena executable (right click->properties....)? It's just an attempt...
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« Reply #90 on: March 02, 2012, 05:08:19 AM »

nothing really helped. just fully reinstalled windows 7 but the problem is still there. no homepath folder and such...

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« Reply #91 on: March 02, 2012, 06:12:24 AM »

And using old 0.8.1 or 0.8.5 executables, instead? What happens?
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« Reply #92 on: March 02, 2012, 06:18:53 AM »

no difference with the 0.8.1 folder. i will reinstall an older graphic driver just in case the latest one caused the problem...
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edit: graphic driver reset didn't help but the suggested 0.8.1 .exe doesn't crash. should i try the 0.8.5 .exe and what would that mean in case of a solution? if the 0.8.8 .exe won't work i can't join the server i play on...

thanks a lot for your help by the way. i appreciate that a lot and i'd wish i could solve this on my own but i have no clue how to actually do that Sad

since OA is the only game out there thats still fun to play i have to get that working again...
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edit II: alright... just saw that joining servers with the old .exe works as well! thanks a lot i guess!

so i will just keep the 0.8.1 .exe and play like normal? that one works just fine and the localisation folder is back as well.

the 0.8.5 executable had the same behaviour as the 0.8.8 - so the only one would be the 0.8.1 but it seems to work
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« Reply #93 on: March 02, 2012, 07:36:14 AM »

With such old executable, some new engine features would not work (e.g. "DO NOT LINK[/b]) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/Manual/Graphic_options#GLSL_effects]GLSL support" and "DO NOT LINK[/b]) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/Manual/Graphic_options#Cascaded_bloom]cascaded bloom"), but the game should work anyway on any server. "0.8.x binaries" should work with OA from 0.8.1 and later...
Most changes between 081-085-088 releases are in gamecode (gamelogic) and maps, etc... and such stuff is inside pk3s, not inside the binaries. Anyway, I think there are a few "gamecode" features that require an updated executable/engine to work correctly, anyway probably they are not something critical.

Anyway, it would be nice to understand what's the problem with the new executables (to possibly find a fix! 0.8.1 binaries probably will stop working when a new major release will be released...).
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« Reply #94 on: March 02, 2012, 08:25:05 AM »

if there are any informations i could provide i would gladly so but as i don't know anything about gamecoding i wouldn't know where to start.

if you have any idea how to understand the problem and if it isn't too complicated just tell me what i could do to help.
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« Reply #95 on: March 02, 2012, 09:36:50 AM »

This is quite complicated to find a fix since it would need testing on your computer, which dev can't do (unless you agree for a remote control but privacy issues would be understandable).

Another way is for you to try different versions of the binaries, and tell us which is the very last version that works, and the first version that doesn't work. It would allow devs to target a lot more specifically what changes are susceptible to produce that bug you're encountering.

You've already done that with official executables, and that tell us that the bug resides in a change between v0.8.1 and v0.8.5, and that's good.

There are also developper's releases that you can find here:
http://files.poulsander.com/~poul19/public_files/oa/dev081/

If you agree to spend some of your time to test out all those binaries, your testing will help a lot to find the exact issue and fix it Smiley

Please try first with oa-bin-0.8.1-1.zip (this should be ok as this should be the same binary as the official one), then try with openarena-engine-bin-0.8.x-2.zip, then openarena-engine-bin-0.8.x-3.zip, etc... in ascending order. Then write down the last version that works, and the first that doesn't work.
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« Reply #96 on: March 02, 2012, 04:20:36 PM »

IIRC, 0.8.5 executables were "version 13" there. You should try version 12, then version 11, then version 10, then version 9... until you find the first one that does not work.
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« Reply #97 on: March 03, 2012, 09:07:05 AM »

Hi, I have the same issue here but now the problem is solved.
I don't know why but I will write what've done and maybe you'll understand.

My config: Windows 7, nVidia

-Download version 0.8.8
-Unzip it directly in the download folder
-Launch the game > 10s crash, back to windows
-Try another time, crash
-Set the game with the windows XP SP3 compatibility (right click, properties,...)
-Launch the game, it works!
-Close the game, move the game folder to another path
-Launch, crash
-Set the compatibility to Windows XP SP3
-Launch, crash (WTF?)
-Launch the game from the download folder, it works!


Now I play from the download folder, it's ok to me.

Hoping this will help!

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« Reply #98 on: March 03, 2012, 01:07:59 PM »

This sounds like a permission problem. XP compat mode partially circumvents the %APPDATA%\Roaming virtualization of >=Vista.
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« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2012, 12:00:33 AM »

compatibilty mode didn't work as well. The game actually won't even start properly before crashing again. The screen would stay black until going back to desktop. Before it was more like the game started for some seconds before crashing.

With the old 0.8.1 .exe there are other problems, like q3config being rewritten every time i startup the game, or r_gamma unable to change (greyed out in the menu).

i will try the troubleshooting introduction at some point to pinpoint the problem further when i have got time for it.
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