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« Reply #475 on: March 09, 2013, 02:40:43 AM » |
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oajgdm3alpha: the red floor is big and very repetitive, please add some distracting details, guiding lines or arrows or some garbage. Many walls are also a huge curved piece of the same texture. Maybe add some tiles or windows, or blood marks, or, well, anything.
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« Reply #476 on: March 09, 2013, 03:59:48 AM » |
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Hi everybody. I have to create the custom teleporter like in the original UT map and i can give you a playable version soon........ stay tuned....
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« Reply #477 on: March 09, 2013, 05:20:03 AM » |
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The first version looked like some ancient jungle temple or some ziccurat, and gave impression of ritual fight. The last version looks very much like old ugly Soviet-era buildings, with no windows, made of boring concrete. This could be scaled-up heating plant, or garage complex, if it would have doors. Although most such buildings are made of bricks. Arts and Cultural Center in Kiev (although it has at least some windows): This one is in Berlin: Somewhere in Ukraine:
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« Reply #478 on: March 09, 2013, 06:35:57 AM » |
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For the oajgdm3alpha I wasn't so concrete, so take a look now at attachment...
(EDIT: for LG I think place b is better & flight-item-respawawntime=150seconds maybe?)
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« Reply #479 on: March 09, 2013, 01:13:30 PM » |
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Hi all. Unfortunately my video-card is gone Now, i'm UP with a Riva TNT2 and i can't try anything. Lucky for me, the "first look version" was ready and i was testing it when the video-card is burned.... I know that is a couple of bugs, but now i can't do anything. The teleporter in the blue base dont work, it's just to see how it look. Next week i'll buy another video-card and continue to edit this map. P.S.: Download the attachment:
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« Reply #480 on: March 11, 2013, 01:21:04 AM » |
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Taken a look. Nice lights again. I think you may select a (at least slightly) different name than "facing worlds" (it's the same exact name from UT, right?). You already noticed the flickering textures under the blue base courtyard, right?
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« Reply #481 on: March 11, 2013, 11:02:19 AM » |
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Taken a look. Nice lights again. I think you may select a (at least slightly) different name than "facing worlds" (it's the same exact name from UT, right?). You already noticed the flickering textures under the blue base courtyard, right? Yes, i've already noticed that bug, i've fixed it. I've also fixed the flame to center they on the "pillars". With the video-card on my PC now i can edit but i can't compile the map...... ..... How about the custom teleporter ? It's ok ?
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« Reply #482 on: March 12, 2013, 01:41:47 AM » |
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How about the custom teleporter ? It's ok ?
Which teleporter? I can see a strange "mirror-like" thing in one of the bases... but it's too black and it seems to do absolutely nothing. For this map, can you do a try placing one or two hooks? I would like to test that... @All:About teleporters, it may be nice if someone of you guys may change one of the teleporters in his map with a "portal" like the one in oa_dm5 ("the cistern" map), where you can see the other side (possibly trying to do not exceed with polygons from the other side to show).
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« Reply #483 on: March 12, 2013, 01:46:15 AM » |
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Tried CTF map - the area between the bases is too small, it was much bigger in UT map,l. The bases thselves are way too big - it takes more time to walk around the base than to run to another base and grab the flag.
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« Reply #484 on: March 12, 2013, 02:48:48 PM » |
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Update ! Unfortunately my actual video-card suck a lot and i can not compile anything ....but thanks to Adriano, you can enjoy the map !! (when he compile it) I have sended him the last version i've finished this evening, i think tomorrow he can give me some suggestion about it. Things added: 1) Added some teleporters in red and blue base + red and blue roof. 2) Added grappling hook at the center of the map. 3) Now the map is longer than before, the central part take more time 4) Added shotgun and rocket launcher in the bases. 5) Added one railgun for each base plus a couple of ammo, slugs and bullet. On the top obviously 6) Some other stuff. Again, thanks Adriano for helping me (and the community)
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« Reply #485 on: March 12, 2013, 05:31:57 PM » |
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« Reply #486 on: March 13, 2013, 03:03:38 AM » |
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Okay, I tested it. The external part of the buildings is too dark, but probably it is the problem Adriano mentioned.
I can however say that the map is nice, but: - Are you sure you want to keep the railgun there? - What about placing more doors at the sides of the buildings, at the lower level at least? At the moment, there is no reason to turn around the building, and it's too easy to shoot at someone who is forced to pass through a single passage! In this optic, also the "green paths" may be "forked" to reach also the corners of the courtyards. - One would expect those teleporters green texture to be somehow animated (by the way, their design is OK, IMHO) - I think that the teleporters that bring you at different floors should be of different colors, to more easily identify them. Of course, the teleporter on that floor should match that color. - One would need some more health and armor bonuses, considering a single railgun hit can kill you.
@Adriano: there is something strange in your screenshots. Apart the fact that one of them seems to show the jump-pad from Q3 instead of from OA... how did you manage to show that oa-branded yellow shield-like thing in the place of the red flag? Did you use some mod? I may have already seen that before, but I don't remember where...
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« Reply #487 on: March 13, 2013, 04:33:27 AM » |
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@Adriano: there is something strange in your screenshots. Apart the fact that one of them seems to show the jump-pad from Q3 instead of from OA... how did you manage to show that oa-branded yellow shield-like thing in the place of the red flag? Did you use some mod? I may have already seen that before, but I don't remember where...
I have just some pk3 extra placed in my baseoa-folder. E.g. zz-bioFlags.pk3 from BioToxic is the new flag and the jumppad is maybe from a q3-map? About map: > Ofc because the skybox doesn't work for now, it doesn't illuminate the outdoor-part. > If think Gig mean the same.... (when you look at my 3rd picture uploaded above)... you can just stay on upper level and camp easily behind the door. > I think the latest modified 'Facing Worlds' looks like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7NAYUB1vjw (just to compare), but I think it is ok to make some other changes as there are already some. (also see that: http://ws.q3df.org/map/facer2d/ ) > I think some health-powerups is missing and plasmagun > As said by Gig, there could be another entrance from the side of the base + the passage around the base seems too small. > I would overwork a bit the middle passage: a) in original the middle part is like a mountain when you look from side: http://www.ukdk-clan.co.uk/UT3query/pics2/DM-FacingWorlds.jpg ...so you can only see the enemy when he passes the middle part of the map b) in Akoms version I like that there are more ways, but it could be a bit thicker on some places cause it is easy to fail with all that up and down. Make it easy. =)
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« Reply #488 on: March 13, 2013, 10:32:13 AM » |
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@GiG: 1) What about the grappling Hook ? Have you tested how it work ? You can find them at the center in the external passages. 2) Maybe i can create another passage in the back of the tower. 3) Of course there are only few objects, it's a beta, just to try it, i'm still working on it. Thanks to your (and of all users) suggestions it will be very cool i think. @Neon_Knight: I'm not sure i can be ready for the next beta, maybe a new PC will come for friday, but i'm not sure....... sorry....
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« Reply #489 on: March 13, 2013, 11:19:16 AM » |
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If the problem is your CTF map, if you want, I can compile your map. The only thing I'm going to need is the q3map2/bspc switches you use.
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« Reply #490 on: March 13, 2013, 11:34:22 AM » |
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I tried the grappling hook, it seems quite useful here. I'm curious to know if bots would use it...
I'm not sure about why Adriano doesn't like the current grass path different height...
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« Reply #491 on: March 13, 2013, 12:54:39 PM » |
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If the problem is your CTF map, if you want, I can compile your map. The only thing I'm going to need is the q3map2/bspc switches you use.
For compiling of my CTF map i have recruited Adriano ..... .....no problem for me to send the .map file to you too, but first of all i need Adriano's confirmation if he has time problems. @GiG: i dont think BOTs use the grappling hook, i have never see them use it.
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« Reply #492 on: March 14, 2013, 03:38:52 PM » |
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@All: You don't have any problem if I move this deadline towards Monday, isn't it? Tomorrow's the second beta release, but I want to make sure that everything is up-to-date.
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« Reply #493 on: March 14, 2013, 04:03:55 PM » |
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@All: You don't have any problem if I move this deadline towards Monday, isn't it? Tomorrow's the second beta release, but I want to make sure that everything is up-to-date.
Monday may be better i think, but for "everything" you mean all the maps or just the latest ? I mean theese: - oa_akomctf1, by Akom74 (..waiting for Adriano .. .. .. ) - oa_akomdm5, by Akom74 - oajgdm3, by jangroothuijse - am_bioxide, by Neon_Knight P.S.: Can't wait to try your map Neon_Knight, if my new PC come in time in my house P.P.S.: I've forgot to recompile the last version of oa_akomdm1 and you still have the old one, if i can i will recompile and give you the official release version.
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« Reply #494 on: March 14, 2013, 05:19:11 PM » |
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@All: You don't have any problem if I move this deadline towards Monday, isn't it? Tomorrow's the second beta release, but I want to make sure that everything is up-to-date.
For me that would be perfect, i may have been getting a bit behind on fixing my maps. @All: thnx for the feedback btw, it will be processed this weekend. @Akom unfortunately for me oajgdm2 and oajgctf1 also need some more work...so expect updated versions of those too
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« Reply #495 on: March 14, 2013, 06:23:55 PM » |
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Monday may be better i think, but for "everything" you mean all the maps or just the latest ? I mean theese: - oa_akomctf1, by Akom74 (..waiting for Adriano .. .. .. ) - oa_akomdm5, by Akom74 - oajgdm3, by jangroothuijse - am_bioxide, by Neon_Knight P.S.: Can't wait to try your map Neon_Knight, if my new PC come in time in my house P.P.S.: I've forgot to recompile the last version of oa_akomdm1 and you still have the old one, if i can i will recompile and give you the official release version. Every confirmed map for the pack will be released in beta 2. Both new to this beta and those which appeared in beta 1. It would be nice if you can do that, otherwise, I can compile maps as well. Just give me the switches you use in q3map2/bspc, and I'll do the rest. For me that would be perfect, i may have been getting a bit behind on fixing my maps.
@All: thnx for the feedback btw, it will be processed this weekend.
@Akom unfortunately for me oajgdm2 and oajgctf1 also need some more work...so expect updated versions of those too
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« Reply #496 on: March 14, 2013, 06:24:09 PM » |
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If the problem is your CTF map, if you want, I can compile your map. The only thing I'm going to need is the q3map2/bspc switches you use.
For compiling of my CTF map i have recruited Adriano ..... .....no problem for me to send the .map file to you too, but first of all i need Adriano's confirmation if he has time problems. Hey it is no problem.... the problem is when you have nobody that helps you... so it is more than ok for me if Neon_Knight just tries it out, too. But thanks, it was gentleman-like. Well however, I tried to compile again all (now without extra pk3's) and skybox and teleporter (moving texture) works, BUT skybox doesn't illuminate, so it remains still dark outdoor.
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« Reply #497 on: March 15, 2013, 01:57:41 AM » |
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If jan does require some other days, I suppose the deadline for beta2 could be moved to the end of the next week... maybe by that time Akom may have fixed his problems...
However, I don't understand how can the compiling be affected by having a certain video card instead of another one. By the way, Akom... did you uninstall the old card drivers, before installing those of the new card?
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« Reply #498 on: March 15, 2013, 05:04:10 AM » |
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If jan does require some other days, I suppose the deadline for beta2 could be moved to the end of the next week... maybe by that time Akom may have fixed his problems...
However, I don't understand how can the compiling be affected by having a certain video card instead of another one. By the way, Akom... did you uninstall the old card drivers, before installing those of the new card?
I'm definitely not against moving the second beta deadline to the end of the next week as well, but by doing that we're going to have less time for polish, unless we move the final release's deadlines a week later.
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« Reply #499 on: March 15, 2013, 05:27:02 AM » |
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Well, of course the final release should be shifted, too. It should have already been shifted when we postponed the first beta...
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