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« on: July 11, 2007, 06:36:30 PM »

allright, some people may know me or have seen me in game before, i usualy play by the name of senor jojo.

due to some cheat accusations that are happening more and more lately i change my name sometimes but with little advance.
Today i was playing some ffa games and after yet another accusation i just got so tired of it i felt the need to complain here.
I was playing with one of my often used aliases: "Que?" when a player called "D'oh!!!" started speccing after some frags made on him.
obviously i just play like i allwase do, to which he says: cheater, your not even trying to hide it. this is where i go crazy, i myself have never seen
a cheater in open arena, but have in my time with quake 3, a cheater is VERY obvious becouse first of all the bot allwase aims for the closest enemy, this makes it realy easy to spot becouse sometimes it turns 180
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2007, 08:09:42 PM »

First of all, does that always happen in the same server?
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2007, 09:42:37 PM »

a cheater in open arena, but have in my time with quake 3, a cheater is VERY obvious becouse first of all the bot allwase aims for the closest enemy, this makes it realy easy to spot becouse sometimes it turns 180

That's not always a good sign that someone is cheating, I've made shots where I have turned 180 degrees, repeatedly.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2007, 03:43:29 AM »

C'mon, people! This is not a proffesional league. I mean, what would cheating bring you here? A good feeling? I, personally, would find playing with a cheating bot very boring, so I can't imagine anyone using these. What would it bring them?
So my opinion on the people that accuse someone of cheating here is that they are really desperate players. Instead, if they want to get better, they should practice more. There are far too many lamers on some servers. I myself often have no difficulty with being first (and I consider myself a below-average player).
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2007, 05:37:14 AM »

no its not allwase on the same server, its allwase diffrent people too. its just that my playing style does resemble botlike aiming, i allwase aim fast even if i have time, its how i learned it on a bad computere, where you aim on feel rather then vision. i know its lame to use cheats and all but after more then a week without a day of accusations i realy just got tired of it Sad servers keep running empty becouse one guy starts with that crap.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2007, 06:51:16 AM »

Senor, even i, humble as i am, and mediocre player have lame players acusing me of cheating. As you know me well (and how lame i am considering your skill) you can judge how lame those guys are. There however are realy jung kids playing  oa, so considering theyr age i just dont care what they say, because they dont understand what is dooable in oa. That said, i must apologise to Cortex() whom i have once suspected of cheating and even said that to him, sorry dude u pwn me hard Tongue. Jojo, some guys dont even see it you turn blue when you collect quad, and they go hmm... one rocket... and so on. I would dislike it if you stopped playing oa cos of those guys. Just keep pwning, i have much more to learn Wink.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2007, 02:23:09 PM »

Cortex is a noob cheatz0r!!! ;-)

I though Cortex was just another bot ;-p
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2007, 01:20:48 AM »

Hi jojo, and the rest Smiley
First off I wouldnt want you leaving OA because of players accusing you constantly Sad You know how I think about it.
But.. I myself have even suspected you, while you were on a fake nickname. That was a wrong thing to do now I know it was you playing. But it was just that not any players with a name I have never seen, beat me so hard. Indeed its cuz of my pwnage aimbot, Insom but why did you have to shout that around?? 
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Well in short you just DO pwn too much for some new players to actually believe that you're playing without cheats. A sign of superious skills vs ignorant beginners I'd say, maye its more the ignorance of those players bothering you.. We both know there are a lot of dumb ppl joining games sometimes.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2007, 06:09:54 AM »

yeah i find that people with high ping and no skill use cheating as an excuse for losing no matter who they vs.
or you rail them and they call u a camper
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2007, 08:01:42 AM »

And these are usually the same people that don't bother strafing, running backwards, bunny hopping, crouching, etc.  Basically they make themselves become easy targets and then wonder why they are losing.

Don't feel bad about people calling you a cheater, btw , I was accused of hacking the qvms to favor the uber elite...
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2007, 11:37:37 AM »

I've been accused of using Speed h4x on the Cat man Du server because I make a Flag run extremely quickly. Just because I know how to bunny Hop. Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2007, 08:57:12 AM »

Jojo,
The sad fact is that there will always be people who take pleasure in trash-talking others with comments of cheating, aimbotting, wallhacking, scriptjumping e.t.c. It might be in regards to someone simply outplaying them, outsmarting them, wearing the wrong bow tie or simply having large feet, it doesn't matter! These people are called bullies in real life and there is no avoiding them unless you simply ignore them. When you enter a server with experienced players, we all know that you are capable of performing well, but if there are some 13 year old kids who just got their hands on OA and use joysticks, of course they will be envious because they have no chance of beating you, or anyone else for that matter. That's where it originates from, envy. It is simply easier to call someone a cheater, instead of trying to outperform him/her.

 As you might now, i did play professionally X years ago and for me this cause of envy caused me lots of problems both in the gaming society, and in real life. It even went so far that other, professional players, called me a cheater during tv interviews in ongoing tournaments, which of course made things difficult. Now I take it as compliments if someone calls me a cheater since I don't posses the skills I had. The only thing that you can, and should do, is to ignore them even though it is hard at times. I'm sure that both you, Cortex and some other players know what problems I've had with certain retards here in OA but the best way to handle it, is to ignore it and leave them be.

You have jumping skills that I haven't seen on anyone else here in OA possess, so with that conclusion I assume that you are using the mighty bunnyhop-jumpveryfar-heatseeking-rocketlauncher-railing-360-turn inferior super aimbot version 1.5?

The cheating issue will always remain, punkbuster or not. Some people consider using a rocketjump script a cheat, others draw the line at having weapon binds or even cg_forcemodels 1. Some people will call you a cheater if you use anything else than default.cfg and some people won't mind either of these, that's just the way it is. FPS games have always been an attraction for name callers since they tend to draw a wide range of audience, especially the better games.

This is a funny incident that actually did happen to me here in OA a few weeks ago:

noob: you are a cheating f*ck!!
me: of course I am, should I use gauntlet then?

a few minutes pass....
noob: I'm sure you have that gauntlet aimbot also.... [disconnect]

Another famous not-so-bright individual here in OA has been seen talking to bots and accusing them of cheating....

Maybe something for dev to consider would be a little 'mute' on the scoreboard and a 'allowMessagemode 0' implementation in the code? Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2007, 09:09:52 AM »

Another famous not-so-bright individual here in OA has been seen talking to bots and accusing them of cheating....

Too bad no one ever gets an .avi of this sort of behavior, we could start a "wall of shame."
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2007, 09:34:40 AM »

Another famous not-so-bright individual here in OA has been seen talking to bots and accusing them of cheating....

Too bad no one ever gets an .avi of this sort of behavior, we could start a "wall of shame."
I'm already on it Smiley
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Is there a way of converting the dm_68 files directly to for example .avi? I heard someone saying that it needs to be from .dm_68 -> .jpg -> .avi does indeed sound strange if true..
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2007, 06:36:15 AM »

dude u cant even use cheats while ur on online play anyway.just ignore people who say that they cant accept the fact that U can frag better than they can (aka more skilled)
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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2007, 02:27:08 AM »

dude u cant even use cheats while ur on online play anyway.
Oh, so when do people cheats then? Against bots? Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2007, 08:06:54 AM »

Hey all,

I've been playing OA for about a month or so now.  I have to say I'm having a great time reliving my college days of drinking beer and playing Q3 online (did a bit more than that, but that part was fun).  Anyway, I'm nowhere near a good player but it seems things are getting a little suspicious.  I've seen players rack up 30 frags in 3 minutes with only 4 people in the arena.  I've been hit by more than a few perfect shots while jumping and dodging like a jackass.  It just seems like some people are a little too good...which kinda sucks for guys like me who are only looking to have fun and not be target practice.  While I would hope it just means I really suck, I'd like to think that there's no way I'm racking up half as many frags now as I did when I started playing five weeks or so ago.  I imagine the people who enjoy cheating in a game like this are the kind of people who root for the house to win at the casino, or think GW really did take Florida in '00.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2007, 02:22:55 AM »

Quote: "I've seen players rack up 30 frags in 3 minutes with only 4 people in the arena."

Dude! If you try and play on jack thompsons speed frags server, there you can whitness 10 frags being achived under a minute. So 30 frags with 4 ppl playing in 3 minutes, no biggy.. =)
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2007, 03:21:09 AM »

Quote: "I've seen players rack up 30 frags in 3 minutes with only 4 people in the arena."

Dude! If you try and play on jack thompsons speed frags server, there you can whitness 10 frags being achived under a minute. So 30 frags with 4 ppl playing in 3 minutes, no biggy.. =)
0:38, 10 frags, 1 smile. What's your personal Snoo? Wink
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2007, 04:29:03 AM »


0:38, 10 frags, 1 smile. What's your personal Snoo? Wink
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Well, with bout 12 ppl, and DM4ISH... I belive it was 27 seconds Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2007, 05:51:03 PM »


0:38, 10 frags, 1 smile. What's your personal Snoo? Wink


Well, with bout 12 ppl, and DM4ISH... I belive it was 27 seconds Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2007, 12:44:51 AM »

Ofc I know bout the stats on Jacks Test server, but if you look a bit closer you wont see wiz there either (with 38). My personal fastest 10 frags were not on that server, and no i cant remember the server name, so no you don't have to belive me.
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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2007, 01:48:01 AM »

Ofc I know bout the stats on Jacks Test server, but if you look a bit closer you wont see wiz there either (with 38). My personal fastest 10 frags were not on that server, and no i cant remember the server name, so no you don't have to belive me.
You cheatzing jump botz0R!!

[note: the new qscore is AWESOME!] Wink
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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2007, 02:01:49 AM »

You got me wiz! I'm a lying, bunny hoppin, aimbottin, workburpin, gf stealin, back stabbin, telefraggin, beauty sleepin, good lookin RainboW Admin! Tongue
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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2007, 02:11:32 AM »

You got me wiz! I'm a lying, bunny hoppin, aimbottin, workburpin, gf stealin, back stabbin, telefraggin, beauty sleepin, good lookin RainboW Admin! Tongue
good lookin' ??!
Oh, read about this one:
set /devmap, sv_pure '0' and sv_cheats '1' then type /god, /give flight and /give all. What you have is settings I use when testing maps, nothing new. So what happens is that 'Mr.Noob' enters my server, starts running about shooting me while I do my normal stroll in the park and checking for map bugs. Told the poor bugger that cheats are enabled. He gets angry, starts calling me a cheater and disconnected. I was sad Sad
Am I a lying, bunny hoppin, aimbottin, homeburpin, gf humpin, back stabbin, telefraggin, beauty sleepin, good lookin RainboW Admin? :<lol>:
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