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OpenArena => Technical Snafus => Topic started by: Bungle on August 12, 2008, 02:41:38 PM



Title: "Humans only" option a bit borked
Post by: Bungle on August 12, 2008, 02:41:38 PM
I've noticed that if a player (or players) spectate, then the server browser detects them as being "non-human" (every time I have joined one of these servers, the amount of players which were not detected "as human" by the server browser have always been equal to the amount spectating at that time, and the player count/capacity suggests the same).

Also, some servers are always so full, that there never needs to be bots in there, so for bots to have been in prior wouldn't have happened! Just an observation. Still, it's a useful feature for when you see 5 players, yet 0 when the option is turned on! :)


Title: Re: "Humans only" option a bit borked
Post by: sago007 on August 12, 2008, 04:09:16 PM
I decided to only count playing humans.

The function was my try at solving the problem that people wouldn't join servers that they knew there was bots on because it was to much work to join to check if some of them was humans.


Title: Re: "Humans only" option a bit borked
Post by: Bungle on August 12, 2008, 04:16:42 PM
Still, it is misleading somewhat, as you might see 8/10 (assuming 2 free) but then the server is full. If it named "show human players", then why complicate it beyond that? :)


Title: Re: "Humans only" option a bit borked
Post by: pulchr on August 13, 2008, 02:19:42 AM
but if it says 8/10 and the other two spots are filled with bots - aren't they kicked when you join the server?


Title: Re: "Humans only" option a bit borked
Post by: Bungle on August 13, 2008, 08:04:14 AM
That isn't my point.. my point is that it will say 8/10 if there are 2 spectating, and when you try and join it'll say "full". So, it's misleading :p


Title: Re: "Humans only" option a bit borked
Post by: Cacatoes on August 13, 2008, 08:19:17 AM
I agree with Bungle, I don't remember well how XQF deals with it, but it deals well.
Maybe a 3rd number for counting bots could be added.
Even a way to list players inside the game browser could be an idea ... I fear there would be no place on the screen though.


Title: Re: "Humans only" option a bit borked
Post by: pulchr on August 13, 2008, 09:43:15 AM
oh, in that case i also agree =)

spectators should be treated as players in the server browser, imo


Title: Re: "Humans only" option a bit borked
Post by: Bungle on August 14, 2008, 06:48:11 AM
A consideration for 0.8.1 then? (which shouldn't be too long now).. ;)


Title: Re: "Humans only" option a bit borked
Post by: sago007 on August 14, 2008, 07:26:58 AM
A consideration for 0.8.1 then? (which shouldn't be too long now).. ;)

there are still a lot of things to do before 0.8.1. The next update is a binary one that wont push the version number.

There some additional problems with the human players option.
# It is counted by the VM on the server side meaning it does not work in other mods.
# This also means that if I change it in 0.8.1 then 0.8.0 and 0.8.1 servers will count differently.