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The New Face of Sight What f**k is it? "The New Face of Sight" to my proposal for a new version of the official website OpenArena.
What you type using the website? I use XHTML compliant standards, version 1.1, CSS, conforming to the standards version 2.1, PHP5 (object programming, using the latest technology PDO), and MySQL.
Once you use XHTML to say that the party will not work in Internet Explorer? No, the page will be written in XHTML standards, but it will also run on Internet Explorer, with the exception that it will be treated like a normal HTML.
In what languages will be available website? Currently plan to create a website in English and Polish, as any other language I do not know at such a high level in order to create another language PARCEL POST.
Why in Polish? Because I come from Poland, and the creation of the Polish language pack does not make me problems.
After what we all new site? As the old deterring party members who live by the principle of "bad side, even worse game." In addition to this project in my account of the other languages other than English, and a system for adding new page in the remote through the administrative panel.
Where can I see how the current page looks? Here... http://www.worxt.pl/openarena/index.php?language=english
Where can I see how the current page looks? (In the Polish language) Here... http://www.worxt.pl/openarena/index.php?language=polish
Interpreters: Language | | Interpreter | Interpreter Login | English | English | Dawid Niedźwiedzki | Kasilas | Polish | Polski | Dawid Niedźwiedzki | Kasilas | French | Français | ??? | Cacatoes | Spanish | Español | ??? | Neon_Knight | ValidatingLanguage | | Interpreter | Interpreter Login | English | English | --- | --- | Polish | Polski | ??? | I am Red :P | French | Français | --- | --- | Spanish | Español | --- | --- |
Change Log: Update from 14.01.09- OpenArena logo on the home page temporarily removed.
- Removed the tag is used <center> not complying with the standards of XHTML.
- Removed one redundant layer.
Update from 11.01.09- From now on page should be centered on whether or not Internet Explorer.
- Now on page will work under Internet Explorer browser and does not valid with XHTML, the party will serve them pure HTML and XHTML browsers that support will be able to use it.
- Improved speed of loading pages (as it currently is not just text, and so no one will notice the difference).
- I changed the look of the menu on better, which nevertheless continues to be pretty.
- Removed the word "OpenArena" header, remained the same logo.
- Logo in the header is now the background, so it is now possible for the selection.
Testing Activities: GOOD | The site is functioning properly. | On average | Page does not work properly until the end. | BAD | The site works, but very badly. | DEAD | The site does not open. | Unknown | Have not reviewed. |
Browser | Status | Internet Explorer 6.0: | BAD | Internet Explorer 7.0: | On average | Mozilla Firefox: | GOOD | Opera: | GOOD | Safari: | Unknown | Konqueror: | Unknown | Avant Browser: | Unknown | Lynx: | GOOD | Google Chrome: | Unknown | Flock: | Unknown | Arachne: | Unknown | Epiphany: | Unknown | K-Meleon: | Unknown | AOL Explorer: | Unknown | Midori: | GOOD | Epiphany: | GOOD | Galeon: | GOOD | Arora: | GOOD |
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2008, 06:33:33 AM » |
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I see that the administrator has not yet read the topic. In any case the offer is still valid. Excuse me for the duplication of posts
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2008, 06:56:11 AM » |
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I haven't got my word to say, but I think that would be nice Have you got some websites to show us ? You may be interested in this thread on another forum.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2008, 08:00:25 AM » |
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Unfortunately, all the works have been removed in format. But I can prepare a page template (no graphics, just the colors and layout), and how you like to do the rest. What do you know? ^. ^
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2008, 09:55:50 AM » |
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Wait for fromhell's answer, that would be sad if you do this work for nothing :-/
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2008, 07:14:05 PM » |
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or just go ahead with it and ask for feedback.. even if fromhell doesnt like it.. it could the start of your new portfolio and there's no better way to show off your skills If you think positive then there's no such thing as a waste of time
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2008, 08:39:45 AM » |
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Currently I working on the script of its own internet forum linked with the portal And as for the parties to wait for the sentence of fromhell ^^.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2008, 04:15:38 AM » |
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My brief likes and dislikes of my preferences, just to 'push' into the right direction:
LIKES: - contrastful and original color schemes - fast loading - able to open it up and read it fine in browsers that are a bit antiquated, or layout-feature stripped for efficiency - elements nicely isolated for easy content insertion streamlined via php (no table tag digging)
DISLIKES: - loads of small text - forced lower casing for absolutely everything - lack of contrast in background color and text color - not fitting in 800x600 - excessive verdana font - wordpress/blog style simple sites of two columns - excessive images - excessive php - abuse of png to the point where it makes the page load take more 100kb for just images (I even see THAT as a bit excessive for bandwidth's sake!)
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asking when OA3 will be done won't get OA3 done. Progress of OA3 currently occurs behind closed doors alone I do not provide technical support either.new code development on github
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2008, 04:34:38 PM » |
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So, fromhell gave it a go How's the website development moving along? I'd like to see a demo of some sorts I'm pretty excited about upgrading OA's website... Currently it's circa-1999 style... Keep us updated and let us know if you need any help!
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2008, 01:58:40 AM » |
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I have a question, Is the server has a apache module - Mod-Rewrite? And one more question... What form of title you think is better? 1. (Just) The Official OpenArena WebSite 2. The Official OpenArena WebSite - Files (We recognise that, user are currently watching this site) 3. OpenArena - Files (We recognise that, user are currently watching this site) 4. (Just) OpenArena
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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2008, 03:51:54 PM » |
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IMO, 4th title. I like plains.
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2009, 01:13:01 AM » |
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The creation of the webpage is still in progress. In the meantime, I have a question (fromhell is currently not on the forum, so I don't have hopes anyone would know what I'm on about... anyway), does the OpenArena server support mod-rewrite, and is it possible to create a domain as a variable to it? I am asking because the website is supposed to support multiple languages and I would like to choose the most convinient way of providing this support. PS, If you would like to see the current stage of the project, feel free to check it at http://www.worxt.pl/openarena/index.php?language=english(The links are currently not working, the only supported language so far is English, it is also suitable for the 800x600 resolution). Any comments would be appreciated.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2009, 06:46:09 AM » |
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I'm really bad at judging these things, but here are a few comments : - It looks a bit small at first (I have a 1440x??? screen). The more it adapts to the screen size, the better, provided it can be read on small screens, and with resized windows (tiled window managers FTW ! ... nah, i'm not even using one). Maybe it could be enlarged ? - "Official OpenArena Website" appears 3 times, on the title bar, on the main title, and as a subtitle, that may be a bit much. - "Open Arena" on the top banner may be removed, I don't like much the font, and I like the idea of having only a logo, because its logo rocks - About the navigation bar, there is a small glitch on the bottom left corner, it looks like a small grey line which hasn't been erased. - Navigation bar, I may add a bit of padding to its content, actually the content sticks on bottom left, ... but I don't know how to place them better :p Feel free to ignore these comments
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2009, 10:26:23 AM » |
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and here are my results: firefox 3.0.5 and konqueror 3.5.9/49.1 @ opensuse 11.0 hth.
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2009, 07:18:29 AM » |
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I have already a few updates on the page. Repairs: - From now on page will work under Internet Explorer browser and does not valid with XHTML, the party will serve them pure HTML and XHTML browsers that support will be able to use it. - Improved speed of loading pages (as it currently is not just text, and so no one will notice the difference). Visual changes: - I changed the look of the menu on better, which nevertheless continues to be pretty. - Removed the word "OpenArena" header, remained the same logo. - Logo in the header is now the background, so it is now possible for the selection. I Currently working on the news, they will be added to the MySQL database with the panel amine (may it called "the Central Database Management by fromhell? ) I ask you to record information about the page is displayed on different browsers, since I can currently use only two (FireFox and Opera). Testing Activities: GOOD | The site is functioning properly. | On average | Page does not work properly until the end. | BAD | The site works, but very badly. | DEAD | The site does not open. | Unknown | Have not reviewed. | Internet Explorer: | Unknown (Presumed: GOOD) | Mozilla Firefox: | GOOD | Opera: | GOOD | Safari: | Unknown | Konqueror: | Unknown | Avant Browser: | Unknown | Lynx: | Unknown | Google Chrome: | Unknown | Flock: | Unknown | Arachne: | Unknown | Epiphany: | Unknown | K-Meleon: | Unknown | AOL Explorer: | Unknown |
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2009, 08:29:23 AM » |
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A good test is to see if the page is usable if you disable page style in your browser.
EDIT: Just tested it. It seems to work fine without page style.
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2009, 09:57:19 AM » |
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Firefox: good Midori: good Epiphany: good Galeon: good Arora: good
This is what i have installed, and all worked fine. Page looks good, but maybe you can make those navigation buttons (News, About, Download...) little bigger (their height, width is good). Like this all buttons together don't come even half of first page. Just my opinion, you don't have to do this.
Anyway page looks good, keep up with good work!
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2009, 05:18:02 AM » |
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I tried the page on Internet Explorer 6. It didn't work too well. It works a little better with version 7. Firefox displays it perfectly, of course.
Internet Explorer 6.0: BAD Internet Explorer 7.0: Better than IE 6.0, but not perfect Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.3: GOOD
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2009, 09:18:36 AM » |
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I changed the title of the theme and content of first message so that it can be easier to understand in what stage is currently located. In addition, the project gave the name . Okay, I back to work . EDIT: From now on page should be centered on whether or not Internet Explorer. Please someone who has the opportunity to check whether the measures in IE now works normally. EDIT 2: I was fixed a little performance, and please some quick check whether the party is still working on Internet Explorer. In addition, the changed values of visual menus, and increase the font on more. EDIT 3: I noticed that the text is broken down and is black. Immediately try to fix it ...
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2009, 10:44:51 AM » |
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Great project, good to see another standartist ! Let me give you some advices: - please add the test page url to the first post, where you introduce the project
- you should install Internet Explorer on your Linux distro using Wine. An easy method is to use the IEs4Linux installation files. You should do so, because it has some problems you should see for yourself instead asking the others (transparent png is unsupported in IE6, menu buttons only active if you roll over text -> width: 100% should be added to "#menu a")
- the menu id is given to both the div, and the ul tag, id is a unique thing, it can only be used once
- what advantages has XHTML in this case? Do you plan to use XSL, or mobile version of the page? If not, than XHTML is a bad choice, you are even using target parameters in the anchor tags, which are not defined in XHTML, there is even a center tag, which is also not defined in XHTML
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2009, 10:48:53 AM » |
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Hi! I made a few fixes to the html and css file: - target="_self" in Menu not needed
- <center> is deprecated
- first line must be doctype, otherwise IE works in quirks mode
- <div id="menu"> not needed, now it's <ul id="menu">
- <br /> not allowed between <td> and <tr>
- classes foot, left and right not defined in stylesheet
- link-color for hover (#666) was defined twice
- a few little fixes to the stylesheet (don't remember which ones)
The version I took, to implement the changes is from around ~16:30, so your new changes aren't yet built into it. The files in the zip have a different path to the images and the css file than what you are using on the server, you just need to adapt these. You can compare filechanges with WinMerge. Download: http://rapidshare.com/files/182136454/oa.zip.htmla few hints: your openarena-logo.gif has a PNG header, although having a .gif file-extension XHTML should not be used any more. It simply doesn't have any real advanatges over HTML. Mobile view can be easily adapted with a separated style sheet, there's no need for XHTML. The W3C has recognized it eventually, that's why HTML5 is in the developing stage. you can compare
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2009, 11:16:52 AM » |
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Udi:please add the test page url to the first post, where you introduce the project Added. you should install Internet Explorer on your Linux distro using Wine. An easy method is to use the IEs4Linux installation files. You should do so, because it has some problems you should see for yourself instead asking the others (transparent png is unsupported in IE6, menu buttons only active if you roll over text -> width: 100% should be added to "#menu a") Thanks for the link, has long been looking for this but somehow I could never find. the menu id is given to both the div, and the ul tag, id is a unique thing, it can only be used once Thanks for paying attention, did not even know how it got there (lied, I know how, by my laziness and abuse of copy ) what advantages has XHTML in this case? Do you plan to use XSL, or mobile version of the page? If not, than XHTML is a bad choice, you are even using target parameters in the anchor tags, which are not defined in XHTML, there is even a center tag, which is also not defined in XHTML XML - no (at least for the time being I do not have such plans). Version cells - Yes, but I intend to complete the first page in a simple browser, and then deal with the supplements. Rectum Ripper:target="_self" in Menu not needed I know that part of the code preserved simply the beginning of the creation of hand when I was doing it on the basis of the frame. (However, I decided to PHP) <center> is deprecated I thought that it could improve on the display page on IE, but not improved. But as it has probably found a way to center the page, so it has already been removed before writing your message, but the version with deleted <center> has not yet been updated. first line must be doctype, otherwise IE works in quirks mode Look above ... <div id="menu"> not needed, now it's <ul id="menu"> It even changed since I have about this place even a few plans. For the moment, so be. <br /> not allowed between <td> and <tr> Where do you see something like this? O_o classes foot, left and right not defined in stylesheet I know this because their name has changed and does not want me then a couple of times to change the same things.EDIT: Classes? WHERE? O_o link-color for hover (#666) was defined twice Where? The end of work today, good night all. (Or a nice day, depending on the time zone )
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2009, 01:06:27 PM » |
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Looks good in Lynx.
The OA logo in favicon.gif seems to be missing part of the 'O'.
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I found a good 32x32 OA icon in the subversion. I've attached it.
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2009, 05:06:21 PM » |
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IMO you don't need to mention "The Official OpenArena WebSite", I mean do you really need to mention it's the *official* website? I think just a big title like "Welcome to OpenArena" should be enough, instead of the current big title + "Index" (?!) + "Welcome to The Official OpenArena WebSite!".
Android's browser: kind of works. The central DIV element is too wide (has a large margin on the right side). btw, if you want to test it yourself, you can download the SDK and run tools/emulator.
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