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« on: July 15, 2008, 07:07:49 AM »

I saw some demos online and I was wondering how to change  some settings like crosshaircolors/-health (and more I forgot about).

I hear people talk about shader.pk3 etc

So my question(s) to the better players is/are:
Would you make a demo of you playing so can see what i like to have also???
I simply cant remember what its all called like.

I like to play ctf tdm and ft,...but I like to learn to play tourney-games to get better.
Also I like to play cpm, i tried osp but people are way better them me it seems.
My fav weapens are rail/lg shotgun
I play quake since 2000 and I dont get better and I think its my config/setup/look of the game

I think I need more files but i dont know wich ones exactly, there are so many of them and I feel a disadvantage because I dont have them.

I use picmip 4 so get rid of most crap that affects my visibility like blood and gibs and rocketsmoke.

I also can make a demo of me playing ofcourse. but then what? where do i put it for you to see?
I got seismovision but i read somewhere that its Not compatible with OA (realy? is there no update orsomething from seismovision)

Im not good i searching stuff on the web therefore I ask alot of  questions

Lol what a story. I stop typing now and wait for some help( I can type for hours, but when I type to long I start talking to myselfe Tongue)
*people are strange*

Please help out a gamer (me me me)

Thanks and
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 08:00:30 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 08:04:24 AM »

modifing the following cvars in your q3config.cfg 
seta com_blood "0"
seta cg_gibs "0"
seta cg_noProjectileTrail "1"
seta cg_shadows "0"

Those have the same effect as picmip4?
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 08:21:38 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 08:49:54 AM »

So in other words its called cheating by those who use picmip 0 or1? I think thats just an opinion not a defenate cheat

So tell me then,....when i play against someone who uses  brightskins and I dont ,...does the other players cheat aswell then? I would not complain about that

I dont get it, people get called cheaters for fuck all, sv_cheats=0
so no cheating possible  because all settings other then  sv=cheats 0 are Not cheats but preferences.

In my book Cheating is having an UNFAIR advantage over the other player.

I thought we all love this game because its very tweakable.
How come people moan all the time about settings of other players while they are available to you aswell? I cant get my head around that

Is using /cg_truelightning 1 cheating aswell when, the other player uses /cg_truelightning 0 ?

All the commands are usable by anyone who knows them, so dont tell me picmip4 is "read as cheating" while its only a preference setting.

I know what com_blood etc does. I can do basic tweaking
And if we ever play eachother ill lie about picmip4 saying i got 1 lmfao, so u know

And i still dont have the brightskins the link on this forum posted by Raz3r is not available :S

Im curious about your reaction. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 09:59:22 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2008, 02:16:34 PM »


In my book Cheating is having an UNFAIR advantage over the other player.


Jo ... u've just said it

Let me think ...

r_picmip 4/5 = lower details that PC has to compute = faster reaction during gameplay ... yes , u're right .... THAT'S CHEATING !!!

Anyone can use the r_picmip command its a FAIR Command you can set, NOT UNFAIR,  its not like you got to look for that command somewhere on an obscure webpage/

SO how about the other commands I wrote in in my last post, I dont see you react to those? how come?


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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2008, 02:23:59 PM »

So I can change all my footsteps and distort them which reducing the volume of ambient sounds, with models that glow like quad well basically change anything I want in base oa folder yet changing r_picmip is cheating?

I would argue that changing anything in config is cheating, since your not playing with the same config as the other person. But I do consider some changes less siginigicant than others
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2008, 02:36:19 PM »

I dont want to argue about anything I want help. ffs read 1st post

I dont play profecional so im allowed to change my cfg.

Like You people Play with original config? lmfao

Where are the people that can help me out please?

Thank you

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2008, 03:05:28 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2008, 05:45:43 PM »

So my question(s) is/are:
Would you make a demo of you playing so can see what i like to have also???
I simply cant remember what its all called like.

But what I like is only for q3a I guess and those changes are not possible in Open arena like for example cg_crosshairhealth

Anyhoe I stop asking questions now. and read only
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2008, 07:00:10 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2008, 07:21:22 PM »


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- Crosshair color cannot be changed in OA
- If u want a demo , connect to a server , specs some good players and record them .... so u'll have all the demos you want

I have no problem changing ch color. will send pm in the morning.. need sleep :/
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 09:36:00 PM »

r_picmip 4/5 = lower details that PC has to compute = faster reaction during gameplay
You have no idea what you are talking about.

Picmip only shrinks textures, this will have no impact on frame rate with
any slightly modern 3D card, only the ancient (made in the previous millenium)
3D cards get any benefit from picmipping.

By your definition people with faster computers are cheaters, WTF??

All this talk of cheating has become ridiculous and stupid.
If you use aimbots, wallhacks etc then that is outright cheating.
If you use bright-skin pack? Not sure myself, it can give people
an unfair advantage, but is alright imo if everyone is using it.
However ANY OPTIONS THE GAME LETS YOU CHANGE IS NOT CHEATING.
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 08:45:06 AM »

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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2008, 09:24:28 AM »

r_picmip 4/5 = lower details that PC has to compute = faster reaction during gameplay
You have no idea what you are talking about.

Picmip only shrinks textures, this will have no impact on frame rate with
any slightly modern 3D card, only the ancient (made in the previous millenium)
3D cards get any benefit from picmipping.

By your definition people with faster computers are cheaters, WTF??

All this talk of cheating has become ridiculous and stupid.
If you use aimbots, wallhacks etc then that is outright cheating.
If you use bright-skin pack? Not sure myself, it can give people
an unfair advantage, but is alright imo if everyone is using it.
However ANY OPTIONS THE GAME LETS YOU CHANGE IS NOT CHEATING.

FINALY someone with an OBJECTIVE opinion Thanks Andrew. I was concerned already ( to many people on to many forums ive been on only state there subjective opinion, wich where not very helpfull to my questions)

Anyway,
Do you have a link for me where I can get the brightskin-pak?
The links I tried on the forum  dont work :S

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2008, 09:44:19 AM »

To CFQ.

Its NOT a concept CFQ but an OBJECTIVE statement get it??

What u call cheating are mearly gamesettings commands you have a very distorted way of seeing the obvious thruth /sv_cheats 1 on a server is cheating allowed /sv_cheats 0 on a server is No cheats available unless you use an aimbot wich is cheating  everything else u say about cheating is JUST YOU SUBJECTIVE OPPINION!

*omg some people,.....*
 thanks for NO help  and thanks for letting me know your way of thinking I apreciate it.

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2008, 09:46:16 AM »

So my question(s) is/are:
Would you make a demo of you playing so can see what i like to have also???
I simply cant remember what its all called like.

But what I like is only for q3a I guess and those changes are not possible in Open arena like for example cg_crosshairhealth

Anyhoe I stop asking questions now. and read only


- Crosshair color cannot be changed in OA
- If u want a demo , connect to a server , specs some good players and record them .... so u'll have all the demos you want

Then I HAVE A DEMO OF MY OWN CONFIG DUH!!
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2008, 09:47:40 AM »

Too Missbehaving and  AndrewJ

Thank you kindly.

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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2008, 09:56:09 AM »

OK People Please, ive had enuff of the fact that the things you can change in AO-console are sometimes called cheating.

There are rules in official games/mathes. and thats that
As long as your NOT a Pro-players stop bitchin about what is cheationg and what is not PLEASE.

And thats  the final thing I have to say about it.

*People Can be right but, smart people Are right?*

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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2008, 12:14:58 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2008, 01:06:29 PM »

I was refering to the part of what you call cheating and the part andrew typed, and what you typed after that  ===>Ok ... I undertstand that every player has his/her own concept of cheating

Therefore any gamesetting that the game ALLOWES you to set is NOT cheat  and therefore is NOT a Concept of cheating. like you say every player has his own concept of cheating is true but they are all wrong.

I looked @ your links and cant make anything of it besides put it in the bin (im not a techie)
What is it you want to say with those links?

Quote from: andrewj on Today at 05:36:00
However ANY OPTIONS THE GAME LETS YOU CHANGE IS NOT CHEATING.


Ok ... I undertstand that every player has his/her own concept of cheating


Anyhoe If you want to argue about cheating I wont let you.
I got something else that you may argue about.
What is camping to you? subjectivly
Mine is  standing still for more then 3 seconds and shoot within a radius of well,..(like the railplatform on ctf4ish) Cheesy or waiting for more then 5 seconds for a powerup.

We got timers to time powerup dont camp for them ;-)
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2008, 04:49:17 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2008, 05:23:15 PM »

Would we be happy having to play on not only the same client binaries, but also exactly the same hardware, peripherals (A/V), input devices?  Same connection and geographic location?  Same Linux disk image?

Some folks would like to run full blast on ¡¡¡4096x3072, floating point color!!!, but that's not always possible.

It could also be the little stuff that counts.


Please don't get me wrong -- all this totally makes sense, but there must be a line drawn somewhere.
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