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« on: March 02, 2010, 04:05:50 pm »

A launcher program
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2010, 09:10:23 pm »

I like it
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 02:13:05 pm »

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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2010, 05:11:03 am »

RN|Launcher

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2010, 01:01:22 am »

A launcher? An external server browser?
If you know others, DO NOT LINK[/b]) h t t p s : / / openarena . wikia . com/wiki/Servers#Tools]you can add them here...
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2010, 02:49:07 am »

A launcher program

Care to elaborate fromhell?
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2010, 09:25:50 pm »

fromhell brought launchers up twice before, but all in different threads:
http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=3513.msg29798#msg29798
http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=2409.0
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2010, 02:49:21 am »

Oh, so were talking about this kind of launcher program: a window that offers the ability to set various options (mainly, screen resolution) before starting the software.

Not sure it's so useful... but if you like it...
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2010, 03:30:55 am »

Oh, so were talking about this kind of launcher program: a window that offers the ability to set various options (mainly, screen resolution) before starting the software.

Not sure it's so useful... but if you like it...

I like that myself, as long as you have the option of turning it off. Once you set things the way you like it, and make adjustments, you should have the option of going to the game directly.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2010, 05:16:47 am »

I could probably tweak together something in Lazarus pretty easily.  Since the q3config.cfg/autoexec.cfg files is just plain text, it would be easy to treat it like an .ini file.  The real issue would be layout, given the large number of options, and types of options, available.  I can see things like tabbed browsing opening child dialogs as being pretty common.

I like how thedimi has options organized on his cheatsheets, but would want to enable the "disable_weapon_*", "disable_item_*" and "elimination_*" variables as well.

Mind you, what I'm thinking of here would be a separate program, like the DOOM launcher, that just writes settings to the config file and then launches the standard game (maybe with a command line option or two to load a mod).  I don't see changing OpenArena itself at all.
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2010, 07:22:30 am »

A little thing to think about: it seems to me that, since OpenArena is a work-in-progess, new options arrive at each release, some defaults may change, etc.... I mean that maybe it could be difficult to stay up-to-date with the new possible settings....
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2010, 08:37:06 am »

Now that I think of it some more, you've got to wonder if we really need something like this?

All of the options and settings are in game, do we really need to set things twice?

Seems like it will just be extra work and a waste of time. Especially if you can't turn it off.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2010, 12:54:33 pm »

Now that I think of it some more, you've got to wonder if we really need something like this?

All of the options and settings are in game, do we really need to set things twice?

Seems like it will just be extra work and a waste of time. Especially if you can't turn it off.

Without using the console, how do you change the FOV setting?  There are a number of items like that where an interface would be nice.
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2010, 05:29:01 pm »

Now that I think of it some more, you've got to wonder if we really need something like this?

All of the options and settings are in game, do we really need to set things twice?

Seems like it will just be extra work and a waste of time. Especially if you can't turn it off.

Without using the console, how do you change the FOV setting?  There are a number of items like that where an interface would be nice.
They could be integrated directly into in-game menus...
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2010, 05:45:17 pm »

Without using the console, how do you change the FOV setting?  There are a number of items like that where an interface would be nice.
They could be integrated directly into in-game menus...
The current menu is a pain to add new things to. The missionpack menu is better but will likely never be finished because it cannot reach a state there people care. I have experimented with combining them, so that the options was in a missionpack-menu so adding more was easy and the rest in classic UI for more pleasant display. The experiment was not very successful.

Some options will never be available ingame such as fs_homepath. However that is a very good option to have in a launcher because it allows to separate configuration files completly from each other. Also useful for guests without there own user account.

I have never been fond of launchers and never used them but there are always some that has different demands.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2010, 03:50:22 am »

If this launcher was to offer additional settings besides what the in game options already offer, THAT would make it worth it.

Not everyone is familiar with the console, so having the options in the launcher would be wise.

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2010, 04:00:44 am »

the launcher would mainly be for directly initializing the game, not doing all aspects of it.  Like say you run into a video error and you had no idea what happened? Or, you just want to start the game for the first time in windowed mode. Stuff like that.
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2010, 05:24:10 am »

IIRC on my first start of 0.85 i run into such kind of launcher...
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2010, 02:05:40 pm »

I've got the basic layout of a launcher created.  I just need to start working through getting them all displayed.  My goal is to include every option I know of.
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2010, 01:26:30 am »

I've got the basic layout of a launcher created.  I just need to start working through getting them all displayed.  My goal is to include every option I know of.

I'll have to try it when it's finished.  Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2010, 08:22:15 pm »

Well, I've got it reading q3config.cfg, parsing each line, and loading the list of binds.

Out of curiosity, how many people are using Linux vs Windows on here?  I don't have access to a Mac for doing builds on that, right now.
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2010, 11:38:24 pm »

I'm PC...

Maybe do a poll for that question?
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2010, 12:45:09 am »

I might do that.

1. a forum poll for the forum goers
2. a site poll for the visitors
3. the site statistics... i mean HOLY CRAP IM GATHERIN BROWSER DATA AND REFERRER DATA I DON'T EVEN LOOK AT  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2010, 02:49:37 am »

I might do that.

1. a forum poll for the forum goers
2. a site poll for the visitors
3. the site statistics... i mean HOLY CRAP IM GATHERIN BROWSER DATA AND REFERRER DATA I DON'T EVEN LOOK AT  Lips Sealed

Ooh sounds fun.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2010, 09:36:02 am »

I might do that.

1. a forum poll for the forum goers
2. a site poll for the visitors
3. the site statistics... i mean HOLY CRAP IM GATHERIN BROWSER DATA AND REFERRER DATA I DON'T EVEN LOOK AT  Lips Sealed

I'd love to see what the site stats say.
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